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Cela étant, de toute façon, ces stries ne peuvent montrer qu'un tout petit quart du climat

C'est vraiment très approximatif !

Les arbres ne poussent ni l'hiver, ni la nuit!

L'activité de lignification qui permet la croissance en hauteur des végétaux ligneux est plus forte la nuit que le jour.

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C'est vraiment très approximatif !

L'activité de lignification qui permet la croissance en hauteur des végétaux ligneux est plus forte la nuit que le jour.

On notera tout de même que les stries n'apparaissent qu'en cas de gain de circonférence, non de hauteur…

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IPCC Falsifies Sea Level Data

Posted by ReasonMcLucus at 07:39 on 05 Dec 2007

The IPCC falsified data showing a sea level rise from 1992-2002 according to Dr. Nils-Axel Morner, former head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics department at Stockholm University in Sweden. In an interview by George Murphy, Morner cites various examples of falsification of evidence claiming sea level rises.

"Then, in 2003, the same data set, which in their [iPCC's] publications, in their website, was a straight line - suddenly it changed, and showed a very strong line of uplift, 2.3 mm per year, the same as from the tide gauge. And that didn't look so nice. It looked as though they had recorded something; but they hadn't recorded anything. It was the original one which they had suddenly twisted up, because they entered a 'correction factor,' which they took from the tide gauge" in an area of Hong Kong that had been subsiding, or sinking.

Morner says that the claim that salt water invasion of a fresh water aquifer indicated a sea level rise ignores the more likely cause due to draining the aquifer for the pineapple industry.

Sea level in the Maldives actually fell during the 70's according to Morner, but the area is cited as evidence of a sea level rise. He accuses Australian global warming advocates of knocking down a tree on one island to attempt to prove sea levels were rising.

Morner is particularly critical of the overemphasis on computer modeling by IPCC "experts" instead of doing actual field research like geologists do.

" Again, it was a computer issue. This is the typical thing: The meteorological community works with computers, simple computers. Geologists don't do that! We go out in the field and observe, and then we can try to make a model with computerization; but it's not the first thing."

http://my.telegraph.co.uk/reasonmclucus/de…_level_data.htm

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Enfin, on a pu dresser la liste des tous les maux provoqués par le réchauffement climatique :

Agricultural land increase, Africa devastated, African aid threatened, Africa hit hardest, air pressure changes, Alaska reshaped, allergies increase, Alps melting, Amazon a desert, American dream end, amphibians breeding earlier (or not), ancient forests dramatically changed, animals head for the hills, Antarctic grass flourishes, anxiety, algal blooms, archaeological sites threatened, Arctic bogs melt, Arctic in bloom, Arctic lakes disappear, asthma, Atlantic less salty, Atlantic more salty, atmospheric defiance, atmospheric circulation modified, attack of the killer jellyfish, avalanches reduced, avalanches increased, bananas destroyed, bananas grow, beetle infestation, bet for $10,000, better beer, big melt faster, billion dollar research projects, billions of deaths, bird distributions change, bird visitors drop, birds return early, blackbirds stop singing, blizzards, blue mussels return, bluetongue, boredom, bridge collapse (Minneapolis), Britain Siberian, British gardens change, brothels struggle, bubonic plague, budget increases, Buddhist temple threatened, building collapse, building season extension, bushfires, business opportunities, business risks, butterflies move north, cancer deaths in England, cardiac arrest, caterpillar biomass shift, challenges and opportunities, childhood insomnia, Cholera, circumcision in decline, cirrus disappearance, civil unrest, cloud increase, cloud stripping, cockroach migration, cod go south, cold climate creatures survive, cold spells (Australia), computer models, conferences, coral bleaching, coral reefs dying, coral reefs grow, coral reefs shrink , cold spells, cost of trillions, cougar attacks, cremation to end, crime increase, crocodile sex, crumbling roads, buildings and sewage systems, cyclones (Australia), damages equivalent to $200 billion, Darfur, Dartford Warbler plague, death rate increase (US), Dengue hemorrhagic fever, dermatitis, desert advance, desert life threatened, desert retreat, destruction of the environment, diarrhoea, disappearance of coastal cities, diseases move north, Dolomites collapse, drought, drowning people, ducks and geese decline, dust bowl in the corn belt, early marriages, early spring, earlier pollen season, Earth biodiversity crisis, Earth dying, Earth even hotter, Earth light dimming, Earth lopsided, Earth melting, Earth morbid fever, Earth on fast track, Earth past point of no return, Earth slowing down, Earth spinning out of control, Earth spins faster, Earth to explode, earth upside down, Earth wobbling, earthquakes, El Niño intensification, erosion, emerging infections, encephalitis, equality threatened, Europe simultaneously baking and freezing, evolution accelerating, expansion of university climate groups, extinctions (human, civilisation, logic, Inuit, smallest butterfly, cod, ladybirds, bats, pandas, pikas, polar bears, pigmy possums, gorillas, koalas, walrus, whales, frogs, toads, turtles, orang-utan, elephants, tigers, plants, salmon, trout, wild flowers, woodlice, penguins, a million species, half of all animal and plant species, not polar bears, barrier reef, leaches), experts muzzled, extreme changes to California, fading fall foliage, famine, farmers go under, fashion disaster, fever,figurehead sacked, fir cone bonanza, fish catches drop, fish catches rise, fish stocks at risk, fish stocks decline, five million illnesses, flesh eating disease, flood patterns change, floods, floods of beaches and cities, Florida economic decline, food poisoning, food prices rise, food security threat (SA), footpath erosion, forest decline, forest expansion, frostbite, frosts, fungi fruitful, fungi invasion, games change, Garden of Eden wilts, genetic diversity decline, gene pools slashed, gingerbread houses collapse, glacial earthquakes, glacial retreat, glacial growth, glacier wrapped, global cooling, global dimming, glowing clouds, god melts, golf Masters wrecked, Gore omnipresence, grandstanding, grasslands wetter, Great Barrier Reef 95% dead, Great Lakes drop, greening of the North, Grey whales lose weight, Gulf Stream failure, habitat loss, Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome, harvest increase, harvest shrinkage, hay fever epidemic, hazardous waste sites breached, health of children harmed, heart disease, heart attacks and strokes (Australia), heat waves, hibernation ends too soon, hibernation ends too late, homeless 50 million, hornets, high court debates, human development faces unprecedented reversal, human fertility reduced, human health improvement, human health risk, hurricanes, hurricane reduction, hydropower problems, hyperthermia deaths, ice sheet growth, ice sheet shrinkage, illness and death, inclement weather, infrastructure failure (Canada), Inuit displacement, Inuit poisoned, Inuit suing, industry threatened, infectious diseases, inflation in China, insurance premium rises, invasion of cats, invasion of herons, invasion of midges, island disappears, islands sinking, itchier poison ivy, jellyfish explosion, Kew Gardens taxed, kitten boom, krill decline, lake and stream productivity decline, lake shrinking and growing, landslides, landslides of ice at 140 mph, lawsuits increase, lawsuit successful, lawyers' income increased (surprise surprise!), lightning related insurance claims, little response in the atmosphere, lush growth in rain forests, Lyme disease, Malaria, malnutrition, mammoth dung melt, Maple syrup shortage, marine diseases, marine food chain decimated, marine dead zone, Meaching (end of the world), megacryometeors, Melanoma, methane emissions from plants, methane burps, melting permafrost, Middle Kingdom convulses, migration, migration difficult (birds), microbes to decompose soil carbon more rapidly, monkeys on the move, Mont Blanc grows, monuments imperiled, more bad air days, more research needed, mountain (Everest) shrinking, mountains break up, mountains taller, mortality lower, mudslides, National security implications, new islands, next ice age, Nile delta damaged, no effect in India, Northwest Passage opened, nuclear plants bloom, oaks move north, ocean acidification, ocean waves speed up, opera house to be destroyed, outdoor hockey threatened, oyster diseases, ozone loss, ozone repair slowed, ozone rise, Pacific dead zone, personal carbon rationing, pest outbreaks, pests increase, phenology shifts, plankton blooms, plankton destabilised, plankton loss, plant viruses, plants march north, polar bears aggressive, polar bears cannibalistic, polar bears drowning, polar bears starve, polar tours scrapped, porpoise astray, profits collapse, psychosocial disturbances, puffin decline, railroad tracks deformed, rainfall increase, rainfall reduction, rape wave, refugees, reindeer larger, release of ancient frozen viruses, resorts disappear, rice threatened, rice yields crash, riches, rift on Capitol Hill, rioting and nuclear war, rivers dry up, river flow impacted, rivers raised, roads wear out, rockfalls, rocky peaks crack apart, roof of the world a desert, Ross river disease, ruins ruined, salinity reduction, salinity increase, Salmonella, salmon stronger, satellites accelerate, school closures, sea level rise, sea level rise faster, seals mating more, sewer bills rise, sex change, sharks booming, sharks moving north, sheep shrink, shop closures, shrinking ponds, shrinking shrine, ski resorts threatened, slow death, smaller brains, smog, snowfall increase, snowfall heavy, snowfall reduction, societal collapse, songbirds change eating habits, sour grapes, space problem, spiders invade Scotland, squid population explosion, squirrels reproduce earlier, spectacular orchids, stormwater drains stressed, street crime to increase, suicide, taxes, tectonic plate movement, teenage drinking, terrorism, threat to peace, ticks move northward (Sweden), tides rise, tourism increase, trade barriers, trade winds weakened, tree beetle attacks, tree foliage increase (UK), tree growth slowed, trees could return to Antarctic, trees in trouble, trees less colourful, trees more colourful, trees lush, tropics expansion, tropopause raised, tsunamis, turtles crash, turtles lay earlier, UK Katrina, Vampire moths, Venice flooded, volcanic eruptions, walrus displaced, walrus pups orphaned, war, wars over water, wars threaten billions, water bills double, water supply unreliability, water scarcity (20% of increase), water stress, weather out of its mind, weather patterns awry, weeds, Western aid cancelled out, West Nile fever, whales move north, wheat yields crushed in Australia, white Christmas dream ends, wildfires, wind shift, wind reduced, wine - harm to Australian industry, wine industry damage (California), wine industry disaster (US), wine - more English, wine -German boon, wine - no more French , winters in Britain colder, wolves eat more moose, wolves eat less, workers laid off, World bankruptcy, World in crisis, World in flames, Yellow fever.

and all on 0.006 deg C per year!

http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm

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Qu'est-ce qu'il ne faut pas lire…

Vers une guerre mondiale du climat ?

Un rapport rendu public lundi évalue les risques de conflits engendrés par le changement climatique. Tour d’horizon des scénarios les plus inquiétants.

Des zones tempérées deviennent sèches, d’autres glaciales se transforment en paradis vert, tandis que cyclones et moussons se font plus violents. Le climat change. Et risque de devenir un «casus belli». Dans un rapport de 250 pages rendu public lundi, des experts mandatés par l’Onu tentent de dresser un tableau de l’influence de ces changements sur la géopolitique mondiale dans les prochaines décennies.

La Méditerranée déstabilisée par le Nil ?

Les relations entre les Etats présent sur les rives du Nil pourrait dégénérer à l’horizon 2025. En cause, des réserves d’eau de plus en plus précieuses à mesures que la région se désertifie. L’Egypte possède une sérieuse réserve grâce au lac Nasser, mais les tensions dans cette région risquent l’escalade jusqu’à la guerre ouverte. Le bassin méditerranéen pourrait être tout entier touché par les guerres du climat. Des conflits locaux sont probables en Afrique du Nord, tandis que l’Europe du Sud pourrait être touchée par une violence d’un autre type, engendrée par les tensions autour d’une immigration sud-nord grandissante. Le rapport cite en exemple les émeutes en banlieue en France, en 2005.

Le pire scénario: le Sahel monte vers le Maghreb, qui monte vers l’Europe. Les pays européens rejoignent le projet « Forteresse Europe ». Les pays du Maghreb sont grassement payés pour endiguer le flux migratoires. Les réfugiés climatiques finissent par millions dans des camps au Sahara.

La guerre du pôle nord ?

Les prétentions bruyantes de la Russie, du Danemark, du Canada et d’autres états sur le pôle Nord font craindre des complications. Seule chance : les Etats qui se disputent la zone sont politiquement et économiquement stables. Selon le rapport, la faible densité de population devrait éviter les dangers inhérents à la surpopulation humaine. Mais les populations locales (4 millions de personnes) auront à souffrir de la fonte de la banquise et des glaciers.

L’Afrique en guerre perpétuelle ?

Les modèles climatiques pour le Sahel sont incertains. Les experts retiennent l’hypothèse pessimiste : les sécheresses, famines et guerres civiles, ne feront qu’empirer, favorisés par des Etats faibles. Ces pays pourraient se disputer les accès aux côtes et aux ports. Plus au sud, le climat pourrait favoriser des mouvements de migrations internes, notamment des campagnes vers les villes. Plus qu’un conflit armé à grande échelle, c’est ici une tension sociale et ethnique extrême qu’il faut craindre.

Le pire scénario : après une dernière tentative de « révolution verte » en 2020, la moitié sud de l’Afrique sombre dans l’Anarchie. Les élites se réfugient dans des zones sous surveillance paramilitaire. Le reste de la région devient le terrain de jeu de seigneurs de la guerre.

Le grenier de l’Asie du Sud en péril ?

Très peuplé, le delta du Gange est menacé par la montée des eaux et les cyclones. Les habitants pourraient être forcés à émigrer vers des cieux plus cléments. Mais la zone fait aussi office de grenier de la région. L’Inde sera menacée sur ses deux flancs, avec un Pakistan asséché à l’ouest, et un Bangladesh inondé à l’est. Deux facteurs qui ne pourront qu’accroitre les tensions religieuses de la zone.

Le pire scénario : la tension entre l’Inde et le Bangladesh augmente avec le flot de migrants. L’Inde accuse son voisin d’impuissance et finit par déclencher une « intervention humanitaire » qui a tous les airs d’une invasion.

Urbanisation galopante en Chine ?

Le phénomène est déjà bien entamé, mais les effets du climat risque de l’intensifier. Les climatologues tablent sur une désertification du nord, et un sud martyrisé par les inondations et les glissements de terrain. Les paysans devraient donc continuer à s’exiler en ville. « Le pouvoir chinois court le risque d’être écartelé entre ces défis environnementaux et la libéralisation politique et économique ».

Le pire scénario : En 2025, la côte est ravagée par les typhons et les inondations. Les réfugiés s’agglutinent dans le sud du pays et l’armée chinoise réprime les débordements dans le sang.

Les Caraïbes dans l’œil des cyclones ?

Aucun des états de la région, à l’exception des Etats-Unis et de Cuba, n’ont pour l’instant les moyens de faire face à l’intensification des tempêtes tropicales, qui menacent aussi l’industrie pétrolière. Conséquence probable : une augmentation des flux migratoires vers les Etats-Unis, alors même que ceux-ci ferment leur frontière sud. Ceux qui ne pourront pas la traverser iront s’entasser dans des villes où la violence explosera.

Le pire scénario : un ouragan de catégorie 6 dévaste Houston et son industrie des hydrocarbures. Les Etats-Unis tentent de limiter la hausse des prix en vendant leurs réserves, mais certains états profitent de cette faiblesse pour couper le robinet d’or noir. Les faucons s’agitent à Washington…

L’Amazonie condamnée ?

Les pays des Andes feront face à des pénuries d’eau potable, combinée à l’instabilité politique qui empêche toute vision à long terme. Autour du fleuve Amazone, les perspectives sont sombres : la biodiversité semble condamnée. Le Brésil devra également faire face à une crise agricole qui pourrait dégénérer en guerre pour le contrôle des terres arables.

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Ce matin sur Radio classique, un reponsable de Météo France à propos du réchauffement climatique dans les Alpes où la température aurait monté de 2° depuis un siècle, soit deux fois plus que pour la France : les gens voient la montagne changer d'une année sur l'autre.

(qu'en est-il d'ailleurs, les stations de mesure sont-elles en zone urbaine ?)

La journaliste : les stations de ski qui voient moins de neige chaque année se préparent au tourisme durable, pour encourager les clients à venir en utilisant des transports collectifs.

Enchaînement, lecture d'une dépêche par la journaliste : alerte dans les Vosges en raison des chutes de neige.

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The Greenest Hypocrites of 2007

Thursday, December 06, 2007

By Steven Milloy

Green has traditionally been the color of the deadly sin of envy. But this year, a trendy upstart mounted a serious challenge to envy’s claim.

Here are green hypocrisy’s top 10 poster children for 2007.

1. Al Gore’s Inconvenient Lifestyle. While the former veep and nouveau-$100 millionaire jets around the world squawking about the “planet having a fever” and demanding that we all lower our standard of living, his own personal electricity use is 20 times the national average, including an indoor pool costing $500/month to heat.

While Gore deflected criticism of his inconvenient electric bill during March congressional testimony by saying he purchased “green” electricity, the truth is, he didn’t start doing so until 2007.

2. Google’s Sky Pig. A photo-op of Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin plugging-in a hybrid car was part of the search engine giant’s June announcement promising carbon neutrality by 2008. But how this PR-fluff squares with the so-called “Google party jet” — Page and Brin’s gargantuan personal Boeing 767, which burns about 1,550 gallons/hour — is any one’s guess.

3. RFK Jr. Tilts at Windmills. Outspoken global warming activist Robert F. Kennedy Jr. recently railed against coal-produced electricity because “climate change is the most urgent threat to our collective survival.”

Meanwhile, Kennedy vigorously campaigns against a proposed Cape Cod wind farm that would generate CO2-free electricity because it would “impoverish the experience of millions of tourists and residents and fishing families who rely on the sound's unspoiled bounties.” Unmentioned in Kennedy’s tirades, however, is the windmill’s unfortunate proximity to his family’s famed Hyannis Port compound.

4. The U.N.’s ‘Bali High’. Early December will witness 10,000 climateers descending upon the paradisiacal island resort of Bali for the 13th annual U.N. global warming meeting. The reason for much jet and limo travel — and other prodigious greenhouse gas generating activity associated with such a mega-conference — is relatively modest: setting the agenda and timeframe for a post-Kyoto treaty. Sure seems like something that could have been handled in a less carbon-intensive way — either by Internet and video conferencing or, if meeting is necessary, somewhere in North America or Europe where most key attendees are based.

5. Nancy Nukes Nukes. Supposedly concerned that “global warming and energy independence…have profound implications for our nation’s economic competitiveness, national security, environmental quality and public health,” House Speaker Nancy Pelosi created the House Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming to take the congressional lead on those issues.

So who did Speaker Pelosi pick to chair the committee? None other than long-time nuclear power opponent Rep. Ed Markey, D-Mass., who appeared with anti-nuke celebrities Bonnie Raitt and Jackson Browne at an October Capitol Hill press conference to denounce legislation promoting the development of ultra-green nuclear power.

6. Every home a Superfund site? “Mercury is highly toxic to everyone, but particularly to children and developing fetuses,” says the activist group Environmental Defense, a long-time campaigner against mercury from power plant emissions and in automobile convenience lighting.

So it came as quite a surprise when the group began advocating that consumers bring the “highly toxic” mercury into their homes in the form of compact fluorescent light bulbs in order to reduce power plant CO2 emissions. CFLs are so hazardous, according to public health officials however, that special safety precautions must be taken for disposal or if the bulbs break.

7. Doesn’t everyone own a NASA scientist? In March 2007, NASA’s climate alarmist-in-chief James Hansen criticized “special interests” campaigning against climate regulation.

“By larding the campaign coffers of numerous politicians, the fossil fuel industry has succeeded in subverting the democratic principle…Until the public indicates sufficient interest, and puts pressure on political systems, special interests will continue to rule.”

Though Hansen poses as a humble civil servant, it recently came to light that his alarmist efforts have been bankrolled by leftist billionaire and MoveOn.org sugar-daddy George Soros. Doesn’t Soros qualify as a “special interest,” Dr. Hansen?

8. Like a Virgin’s Carbon Footprint. London’s Daily Mail reported (“What planet are they on?, July 7) on the climate consciousness of Madonna and other Live Earth performers.

“[T]he pop stars headlining the concerts are the absolute antithesis of the message they promote with Madonna leading the pack of the worst individual rock star polluters in the world… Madonna alone has an annual carbon footprint of 1,018 tons… the average Briton produces just 10 tons… [her] Confessions tour last year produced 440 tons of carbon pollution in just four months, simply in flights between venues.”

That’s one small footprint for the average Brit, but one giant footprint for celebrity-kind.

9. The NBC Poppycock. NBC-Universal kicked-off of its “Green is Universal” initiative by dimming the studio lights — but not two giant video screens and advertisements — during a break in the Nov. 4 Cowboys-Eagles game.

Candle-lit host Bob Costas then cut to video of Today show personalities Matt Lauer, Al Roker and Ann Curry reporting about climate change from the Arctic, Amazon and Antarctic, respectively. None gave even a nod to the energy-hogging effort required to send them and crews to do such pointless broadcasts from exotic locales.

10. California’s Hypocritenator. Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger declared in June 2005 that, “California will be a leader in the fight against global warming…the time for action is now.”

But just two years later, the Los Angeles Times reported that state efforts had been derailed by the governor’s mismanagement and deceit. Schwarzenegger even fired the state’s chief regulator for refusing to limit the number of greenhouse gas regulations. Columnist Debra Saunders noted that, “Schwarzenegger boasts that he is a world leader in the fight against global warming — but his advocacy shouldn't keep him from flying in private jets or driving a Hummer.”

The one thing these honorees all have in common is that their real-life actions belie their carefully crafted green public images. If they don’t take their commitment seriously, why should you?

http://www.junkscience.com/ByTheJunkman/20071206.html

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Quand la réalité n'obéit pas aux modèles catastrophistes des écocondriaques :

A comparison of tropical temperature trends with model predictions

We examine tropospheric temperature trends of 67 runs from 22 Climate of the 20th Century model simulations and try to reconcile them with the best available updated observations (in the tropics during the satellite era). Model results and observed temperature trends are in disagreement in most of the tropical troposphere, being separated by more than twice the uncertainty of the model mean. In layers near 5 km, the modelled trend is 100 to 300% higher than observed, and, above 8 km, modelled and observed trends have opposite signs. These conclusions contrast strongly with those of recent publications based on essentially the same data. Copyright © 2007 Royal Meteorological Society

http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin…=1&SRETRY=0

Climate warming is naturally caused and shows no human influence:

Carbon dioxide (CO2) is not a pollutant.

Climate scientists at the University of Rochester, the University of Alabama, and the University of Virginia report that observed patterns of temperature changes (‘fingerprints’) over the last thirty years are not in accord with what greenhouse models predict and can better be explained by natural factors, such as solar variability. Therefore, climate change is ‘unstoppable’ and cannot be affected or modified by controlling the emission of greenhouse gases, such as CO2, as is proposed in current legislation.

These results are in conflict with the conclusions of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and also with some recent research publications based on essentially the same data. However, they are supported by the results of the US-sponsored Climate Change Science Program (CCSP).

The report is published in the December 2007 issue of the International Journal of Climatology of the Royal Meteorological Society [DOI: 10.1002/joc.1651]. The authors are Prof. David H. Douglass (Univ. of Rochester), Prof. John R. Christy (Univ. of Alabama), Benjamin D. Pearson (graduate student), and Prof. S. Fred Singer (Univ. of Virginia).

The fundamental question is whether the observed warming is natural or anthropogenic (human-caused). Lead author David Douglass said: “The observed pattern of warming, comparing surface and atmospheric temperature trends, does not show the characteristic fingerprint associated with greenhouse warming. The inescapable conclusion is that the human contribution is not significant and that observed increases in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases make only a negligible contribution to climate warming.”

Co-author John Christy said: “Satellite data and independent balloon data agree that atmospheric warming trends do not exceed those of the surface. Greenhouse models, on the other hand, demand that atmospheric trend values be 2-3 times greater. We have good reason, therefore, to believe that current climate models greatly overestimate the effects of greenhouse gases. Satellite observations suggest that GH models ignore negative feedbacks, produced by clouds and by water vapor, that diminish the warming effects of carbon dioxide.”

Co-author S. Fred Singer said: “The current warming trend is simply part of a natural cycle of climate warming and cooling that has been seen in ice cores, deep-sea sediments, stalagmites, etc., and published in hundreds of papers in peer-reviewed journals. The mechanism for producing such cyclical climate changes is still under discussion; but they are most likely caused by variations in the solar wind and associated magnetic fields that affect the flux of cosmic rays incident on the earth’s atmosphere. In turn, such cosmic rays are believed to influence cloudiness and thereby control the amount of sunlight reaching the earth’s surface—and thus the climate.” Our research demonstrates that the ongoing rise of atmospheric CO2 has only a minor influence on climate change. We must conclude, therefore, that attempts to control CO2 emissions are ineffective and pointless. – but very costly.

http://science-sepp.blogspot.com/2007/12/p…ec-10-2007.html

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Or donc la première prophétie du pape de l'Église de Climatologie

Now, the scientific community is warning us that the average hurricane will continue to get stronger because of global warming […]

Two thousand scientists, in a hundred countries, engaged in the most elaborate, well organized scientific collaboration in the history of humankind, have produced long-since a consensus that we will face a string of terrible catastrophes unless we act to prepare ourselves and deal with the underlying causes of global warming.

ne s'est pas réalisée : les chiffres de la saison 2007 des ouragans dans l'hémisphère nord indique qu'il s'agit de la campagne avec la plus basse intensité depuis 1977, et une des quatres plus faibles depuis 1958.

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Ryan Maue : "2007 Tropical Cyclone season Summary"

Roger Pielke, Jr. and Stephen McIntyre : "Changes in Spatial Distribution of North Atlantic Tropical Cyclones"

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La banquise arctique a subi en 2007 une fonte estivale record : Article

Le nombre de catastrophes naturelles a bondi de 60% en dix ans, 2007 année record : Article

Je suis sidéré par les manoeuvres tordues de certains (ultra)libéraux pour minimiser ou nier le problème du réchauffement parce que ça ne rentre pas dans leur schéma idéologique.

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Le nombre de catastrophes naturelles a bondi de 60% en dix ans…

Dixit… la Croix-Rouge ! :icon_up:

Je suis sidéré par les manoeuvres tordues de certains (ultra)libéraux pour minimiser ou nier le problème du réchauffement parce que ça ne rentre pas dans leur schéma idéologique.
The Pope condemns the climate change prophets of doom

By SIMON CALDWELL - More by this author »

Last updated at 14:48pm on 12th December 2007

Pope Benedict XVI has launched a surprise attack on climate change prophets of doom, warning them that any solutions to global warming must be based on firm evidence and not on dubious ideology.

The leader of more than a billion Roman Catholics suggested that fears over man-made emissions melting the ice caps and causing a wave of unprecedented disasters were nothing more than scare-mongering.

The German-born Pontiff said that while some concerns may be valid it was vital that the international community based its policies on science rather than the dogma of the environmentalist movement.

His remarks will be made in his annual message for World Peace Day on January 1, but they were released as delegates from all over the world convened on the Indonesian holiday island of Bali for UN climate change talks.

The 80-year-old Pope said the world needed to care for the environment but not to the point where the welfare of animals and plants was given a greater priority than that of mankind.

"Humanity today is rightly concerned about the ecological balance of tomorrow," he said in the message entitled "The Human Family, A Community of Peace".

"It is important for assessments in this regard to be carried out prudently, in dialogue with experts and people of wisdom, uninhibited by ideological pressure to draw hasty conclusions, and above all with the aim of reaching agreement on a model of sustainable development capable of ensuring the well-being of all while respecting environmental balances.

"If the protection of the environment involves costs, they should be justly distributed, taking due account of the different levels of development of various countries and the need for solidarity with future generations.

"Prudence does not mean failing to accept responsibilities and postponing decisions; it means being committed to making joint decisions after pondering responsibly the road to be taken."

Efforts to protect the environment should seek "agreement on a model of sustainable development capable of ensuring the well-being of all while respecting environmental balances", the Pope said.

He added that to further the cause of world peace it was sensible for nations to "choose the path of dialogue rather than the path of unilateral decisions" in how to cooperate responsibly on conserving the planet.

The Pope's message is traditionally sent to heads of government and international organisations.

His remarks reveal that while the Pope acknowledges that problems may be associated with unbridled development and climate change, he believes the case against global warming to be over-hyped.

A broad consensus is developing among the world's scientific community over the evils of climate change.

But there is also an intransigent body of scientific opinion which continues to insist that industrial emissions are not to blame for the phenomenon.

Such scientists point out that fluctuations in the earth's temperature are normal and can often be caused by waves of heat generated by the sun. Other critics of environmentalism have compared the movement to a burgeoning industry in its own right.

In the spring, the Vatican hosted a conference on climate change that was welcomed by environmentalists.

But senior cardinals close to the Vatican have since expressed doubts about a movement which has been likened by critics to be just as dogmatic in its assumptions as any religion.

In October, the Australian Cardinal George Pell, the Archbishop of Sydney, caused an outcry when he noted that the atmospheric temperature of Mars had risen by 0.5 degrees celsius.

"The industrial-military complex up on Mars can't be blamed for that," he said in a criticism of Australian scientists who had claimed that carbon emissions would force temperatures on earth to rise by almost five degrees by 2070 unless drastic solutions were enforced.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/arti…ticle_id=501316

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La banquise arctique a subi en 2007 une fonte estivale record : Article

Le nombre de catastrophes naturelles a bondi de 60% en dix ans, 2007 année record : Article

Je suis sidéré par les manoeuvres tordues de certains (ultra)libéraux pour minimiser ou nier le problème du réchauffement parce que ça ne rentre pas dans leur schéma idéologique.

Sur ton histoire de banquise, je ne pense pas qu'un article tiré de Yahoo soit une référence.

Voilà une mise en perspective plus intéressante qui va au delà de l'alarmisme général: http://www.climat-sceptique.com/categorie-507632.html

Ton histoire de catastrophes naturelles ne prouvent rien: d'abord l'article de vient de yahoo, ensuite on ne sait pas quels sont les critères utilisés pour quantifier les catastrophes naturelles et surtout si ces critères ont évolué, enfin cela me semble relever du stade la pensée magique d'affirmer que, comme les catastrophes naturelles ont augmenté, c'est la faute du réchauffement climatique (ce vaste fourre-tout) et donc de l'homme (surtout occidental parce qu'il est capitaliste: il paye pour ses péchés).

Bref, au cas où tu ne l'aurais pas compris, je ne pense pas qu'il y ait beaucoup de libéraux (sauf les "ultraméchant-libéraux" :icon_up: ) qui nient l'existence probable d'une tendance à un réchauffement climatique car cela semble assez bien établi. Mais pour l'instant rien ne prouve que ce soit le CO2 qui soit l'élément clé de ce phénomène et donc rien ne prouve que l'homme soit responsable de ce "réchauffement global".

Ce n'est donc pas une position idéologique, c'est une position critique qui est aussi soutenue par des scientifiques sérieux.

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Je suis sidéré par ton post qui semble n'avoir rien lu de tout ce qui est dit dans ce fil.

Honnetement je n'ai pas tout lu. 50 pages de négation c'est long ! Mais ce que j'ai lu ne m'a pas convaincu. Le premier nom cité sur le fil est… Michael Crichton, un écrivain de science-fiction médiocre et certainement pas un expert du climat. Et des scientifiques comme Fred Singer ou Robert Balling ont admis recevoir des financements de groupes pétroliers et industriels. Ensuite les déclarations des experts qui nous alertent sur ce problème sont souvent tournées en dérision (Eglise de climatologie, etc…). Ca pourrait être drôle si le sujet n'était pas aussi grave, mais ne constitue pas une argumentation.

Sur ton histoire de banquise, je ne pense pas qu'un article tiré de Yahoo soit une référence.

La source n'est pas Yahoo, qui n'est qu'un site d'information, mais l'Union géophysique américaine.

[…] enfin cela me semble relever du stade la pensée magique d'affirmer que, comme les catastrophes naturelles ont augmenté, c'est la faute du réchauffement climatique (ce vaste fourre-tout) et donc de l'homme (surtout occidental parce qu'il est capitaliste: il paye pour ses péchés).[…]

Ce n'est donc pas une position idéologique, c'est une position critique qui est aussi soutenue par des scientifiques sérieux.

C'est bien vous qui faites d'une question scientifique un problème idéologique. Le climat et son évolution n'a rien à voir avec le capitalisme… La libre-entreprise a permis un formidable développement des sociétés humaines., et même si on constate que le réchauffement climatique est lié à l'activité humaine, cela ne remet pas en cause notre système économique. Il s'agit seulement de prendre des précautions en fixant des normes et des règles, et de faciliter le développement de nouvelles technologies ayant moins d'impact sur l'environnement. Je ne suis pas de ceux qui prônent la décroissance et le retour à l'âge de pierre. Mais lorsque l'Etat fixe des normes pour l'isolation et le chauffage dans les nouvelles constructions, cela peut s'avérer très positif sans entraver vraiment nos libertés.

S'il s'avère que les affirmations des spécialistes sont trop alarmistes et que le phénomène est moins grave que pévu, tant mieux. Mais on a tout à gagner à prendre des précautions.

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