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Adrian

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Dans un discours public prononcé le 9 septembre 2015 sur la tombe du fondateur de la Révolution islamique en Iran, l’Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeiny, le Guide suprême iranien Ali Khamenei a affirmé que les Etats-Unis – le « Grand Satan » – étaient pires que Satan, et a mis en garde le peuple iranien et le courant modéré contre le risque d’être dupés par la tentative américaine d’infiltrer l’Iran. Khamenei a ajouté que dans 25 ans, Israël n’existerait plus et que jusque-là, il n’aurait pas une minute de répit.

 

http://www.memri.fr/2015/09/10/le-guide-supreme-iranien-khamenei-dans-25-ans-il-ny-aura-plus-de-regime-sioniste-dans-la-region-lamerique-est-pire-que-satan/

 

Le Moyen Orient, le plus gros merdier du 21ème siècle...

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Eorl

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Syrie: 13 morts dans un bombardement rebelle

 

C'est la première fois depuis des mois (voir depuis le début) que je vois un média classique parler des victimes des rebelles. 

 

Que se passe-t-il ? 

 

 

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Anton_K

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Valls n'est pas intelligent. Il dit qu'il est impossible de négocier avec Assad, et littéralement, dans sa phrase suivante, qu'il faut parler avec l'Iran parce que "la France parle avec tout le monde". Les journalistes vont lui sauter dessus et ils auront raison.

 

edit : par ailleurs puisqu'il appelle à la coopération avec Russie, l'inconséquence de ces piques anti-Assad ne fait que rappeler l'impertinence des velleités de nation building de la France à l'époque du "soutien au rebelles", et du printemps arabe. C'est un peu ridicule.

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Adrian

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The religious and cultural heritage being ruined by Yemen's war

ANYBODY who follows the international media will be aware that some terrible harm has been done to the world's spiritual and cultural heritage in the course of fighting in Syria and Iraq; and that some of this destruction is a result of deliberate efforts by Islamic State fighters to eliminate all structures which are out of step with their own narrow understanding of Sunni Islam.

But there is another country in the region where a sectarian civil war, with an international dimension, is wreaking major damage to religious and architectural treasures, and that conflict is getting much less international attention. The country is Yemen, where a Saudi-led coalition of Sunni Arab states has been waging war by air and land against the Houthis, a Shia rebel group who control the capital, Sana'a, and are denounced by their foes as a proxy for Iran.

The roster of antiquities damaged in the war in Yemen runs long. Missiles fired from the coalition's planes have obliterated a museum (where the fruits of an American-Yemeni archaeological dig were stored), historic caked-mud high-rise dwellings, 12th century citadels and minarets and other places whose importance to humanity's heritage has been recognised by the UN. The Great Dam of Marib, a feat of engineering that was undertaken 2,800 years ago, has been struck four times, most recently on August 18th. Antiquities experts fear for the oldest surviving fragment of the Koran, in a six-month war which has killed over 4,000 and injured 20,000.

But apparently out of deference to their Saudi and Gulf friends, Western powers have yet to make much comment on the destruction in Yemen, whether humanitarian or cultural. They have expressed justified horror over cultural losses in Syria, such as Islamic State's demolition of the Bel temple in Palmyra. They willingly subscribe to the general principle of protecting religious and cultural objects from war.

Yet Western officialdom has been tongue-tied about Yemen; Britain's Foreign Office, for instance, did not respond when asked about the cultural damage there. In the ancient city of Sana'a, a UNESCO World Heritage site, there is a bitter feeling that the West is applying lenient standards to a coalition whose members are strategic allies and defence customers. Mohannad al-Sayani, director of Yemen's General Organisation of Antiquities and Museums, laments that his country is suffering cultural vandalism whose ideological purpose resembles the campaign against Syrian and Iraqi antiquities. In all cases, people are bent on wiping out what they consider to be "idolatry"—in other words, any object that in their view signals deviation from the strict path laid down by the Prophet Muhammad and his immediate successors. In addition to the strikes from the air, he says, ruthless local branches of Islamic State and al-Qaeda are making ground attacks on Yemen's cultural sites.  

Lamya Khalidi, a France-based archaeologist who worked for many years in Yemen, says the Saudi-led coalition must surely know what it is bombing; its munitions are high-precision, and it has received a list of sensitive heritage sites, drawn up in the vain hope that would be spared. It is at least somewhat heartening that UNESCO, the UN's cultural arm, has spoken out on the subject; in June it held a conference in Paris and condemned the multiple acts of cultural destruction that have taken place in Yemen, including the bombing of two places it has designated as World Heritage sites. UNESCO is also concerned by the wrecking of the Dhamar museum, which housed over 12,000 artefacts, and by air attacks on the archaeological excavation sites at Baraqish and Sirwah, both impressive pre-Islamic walled cities. Behind the scenes, the United States too is financing an anticipated Red List of antiquities at risk, to be produced by the Paris-based International Council of Museums. But America does this discreetly for fear of embarrassing its Saudi and Gulf allies.

While the relationship between intentions and results in aerial warfare can be foggy, other damage is being done by al-Qaeda forces, fighting along Yemen’s southern coast, who make no secret of their purpose. They have threatened to destroy the "idols" in the museum of Mukallah port, and destroyed two Sufi shrines, including a 700-year-old mosque in Lahj, a short way inland.

In Aden, the main southern port, Sunni fighters who were under bombardment by the Houthis responded by destroying a Shia mosque. Other traces of non-Sunni culture were wrecked too, including the gravestones of Chinese workers who built the coastal road in the 1960s. Perhaps the latter were deemed to be relics of atheism, dating from the 1970s when Yemen was a socialist republic, says Thanos Petouris, a Yemen expert who released footage of their destruction.

As with any belligerent in any war, the Houthis have an agenda too; they naturally want to draw attention to cultural vandalism in the hope that the West will snap out of its indifference and rein in the Saudi-led coalition. The Houthi side has also done some damage to historic sites and monuments, including a statue of Queen Victoria which has been defaced by gunshots. After Aden was pounded by the Houthis and their allies, loyal to former president Ali Abdullah Saleh, the country's only Christian cemetery and an Indian mosque were left in ruins. Opportunistic developers might also have helped to bomb the sites, eyeing a chance to turn old city-centre buildings into prime real estate.

But for people who love Yemen's extraordinary history, ranging from pre-historic walled towns to some of the most finely decorated mosques in the world, a great irreversible tragedy is occurring. The country was once known as Arabia Felix, Happy Arabia, because of its dominance of the incense trading route. Now that felicity is a thing of the past, and not enough people have noticed.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/erasmus/2015/09/cultural-religious-heritage-destroyed-yemen-war

 

Au Yemen aussi on détruit des vestiges antiques ...

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Adrian

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Selon M. Sarkozy, « il faut construire les conditions de la création d’une armée de libération de la Syrie, s’appuyer sur les voisins, dialoguer davantage avec la Russie et Poutine ».« Pensez-vous vraiment que [l’Etat islamique] peut mettre en échec vingt-deux des pays les plus puissants au monde ? En quelques mois, la Syrie peut être libérée. C’est une question de leadership. »

Il critique la décision de François Hollande d’effectuer des vols de reconnaissance en Syrie, avant d’éventuelles frappes aériennes.

http://www.lemonde.fr/politique/article/2015/09/18/sarkozy-critique-hollande-et-pense-que-la-syrie-peut-etre-liberee-en-quelques-mois_4762091_823448.html#RGejHAXvvzFOpRQS.99

 

Ah Sarkozy ... La guerre d’Afghanistan c'est une coalition de plus de 36 pays + des sociétés militaires privés.

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Moustachu

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J'ai beau expliquer à certains russophiles ici et en-dehors qui sont de droite que la Russie est en échec économique et qu'ils n'ont plus les moyens de leur stratégie, ça ne passe pas dans leurs têtes. Et c'est marrant il y en a beaucoup en France, j'ai dû encore expliquer ça au grand-père de ma compagne hier soir.

 

Je ne suis pas russophile mais je pense que Poutine n'a pas trop le choix : la Russie considère que la Syrie est l'entrainement avant le vrai match, c'est-à-dire une guerre civle de la même sauce au Caucase et en Asie centrale (l'environnement proche). Que ce sentiment soit exagéré ou pas (quoique avec tous les gars tchéchènes et ouzbeks qui disent que la prochaine étape est Moscou, je me demande si c'est tellement exagéré), la Russie considère que c'est une question de "National security" de mettre les points sur les i en Syrie. Elle y mettra suffisemment les moyens s'il le faut.

Dans ce genre de situation, les questions économiques passent franchement en second plan (voir l'URSS pendant WWII).

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Adrian

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Les Américains débarquent en Syrie… indirectement. Soixante-quinze rebelles syriens entraînés en Turquie par les Etats-Unis pour combattre le groupe djihadiste Etat islamique (EI) sont entrés en Syrie, a indiqué dimanche l’Observatoire syrien des droits de l’Homme (OSDH).

« 75 nouveaux combattants entraînés dans un camp près de la capitale turque (Ankara) sont entrés en Syrie dans la province d’Alep entre vendredi et samedi matin », a déclaré à l’AFP Rami Abdel Rahmane, directeur de cette ONG qui dispose d’un vaste réseau de sources dans ce pays en guerre.

http://www.20minutes.fr/monde/syrie/1690731-20150920-soixante-quinze-rebelles-entraines-etats-unis-entres-syrie

 

La dernière fois que les américains ont fait ça en Syrie les mecs sont tous morts le lendemain ...

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PJE

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Deal to end civil war in Syria could allow president Bashar al-Assad to stay
David Cameron goes to UN global poverty summit in New York holding out prospect of a transition arrangement

David Cameron arrives at the United Nations on Sunday hoping to work with other countries on a deal to end Syria’s bitter civil war, a deal that could allow its president, Bashar al-Assad, to stay in power for an interim period.

The prime minister, who arrives in New York for a UN summit aimed at curbing global poverty, backs the view of his foreign secretary, Philip Hammond, that Assad must ultimately step down but could remain for a while as part of a transitional government.

Hammond told the Commons foreign affairs committee several weeks ago that Assad could be allowed to stay for up to six months, but a government source said Downing Street does not have a specific timeframe in mind, raising the possibility it could be longer.

 

A British government source said: “The prime minister’s view is that there is not a long-term, stable, peaceful future for Syria where Syrian people can return home with President Assad as its leader, and that’s what we’ve got to work towards … We would be open to working with other countries on a solution whereby there is a transition. We haven’t got a specific timeframe for when we think Assad should go. We’ve always been clear that there would need to be some sort of transition.”

Russia’s continued backing for Assad, including the dispatch of troops and aircraft to Syria last week, appears to be forcing the west to reconsider its position on the four-year civil war, in which the dictator is battling Islamic State and a wide variety of other insurgent groups. The UN general assembly in New York offers an opportunity for world leaders to inject new momentum into international talks on Syria, especially as attendees include US president Barack Obama and Russian president Vladimir Putin.

The prime minister has issued a robust defence of his approach to the Syrian refugee crisis and other humanitarian challenges across the world ahead of the summit. In an exclusive article for the Observer, he argues that the UK’s multibillion-pound overseas aid programme has provided “life-saving support” to millions of people displaced by the conflict in Syria.

Cameron says the UK aid payments, now totalling around £12bn a year, allow this country to meet its moral obligations and respond fast to global challenges as they arise.

Writing on the eve of the Labour party conference, where he will face criticism for reacting too slowly to the refugee crisis, Cameron insists his commitment to spending 0.7% of GDP every year on overseas aid puts the UK on the high ground and allows it to take the lead in humanitarian responses.

Throughout Cameron’s premiership his commitment to the 0.7% policy – which was finally enshrined in law in March this year – has attracted strong criticism from rightwing Tory MPs, who have argued that much of the money is wasted and would be better spent in the UK at a time of austerity. Cameron has also been attacked recently from the left – and by church leaders – for a slow and insensitive initial response to the refugee crisis.

Taking on his critics from both sides, the prime minister argues that the huge sums committed to aid allow the UK to respond flexibly and speedily to crises, while also directing money to economic development andthe spread of democracy.

“We have helped to set the agenda,” Cameron writes. “We fought hard to keep tackling extreme poverty as the clarion call for the world. We were determined that issues like gender equality and tackling climate change would be an integral part of the goals.

“And we made sure there was a proper focus on the causes of poverty – like corruption – as well as its symptoms. For the first time ever, we have got proper references to good government, the rule of law and access to justice. Above all, because we kept our promises on aid spending, others listen to us.

“We need aid to provide life-saving support for refugees in Syria and neighbouring countries so they don’t embark on perilous journeys to Europe. We need aid to tackle epidemics like Ebola in west Africa, saving hundreds of thousands of lives and preventing it spreading around the world. We need aid to shore up stability in countries like Somalia, helping to protect the people there and preventing these places becoming safe havens for terrorists.”

Between 2010, Cameron’s first year as prime minister, and 2013, overseas aid rose by £3.01bn to £11.46bn. In April last year, the UK reached its goal of spending of 0.7% of GDP on aid, becoming the first G8 country to do so.

His comments in the Observer will be seen as an attempt to reach out to centre-ground voters with a message about compassionate Conservatism.

In his first speech as Liberal Democrat leader,Tim Farron tore into Cameron last week for his response to the refugee crisis, saying he had put in the “minimum effort for the maximum headlines”. Farron said Cameron’s plans to take in 20,000 people fleeing the Syrian civil war by 2020 would not help a single refugee already in Europe and criticised him for not taking part in the EU quota system.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/sep/26/syria-david-cameron-deal-assad-could-stay?

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Tramp

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La coalition bombardait en Irak avec l'accord du gouvernement irakien. La elle bombarde la Syrie sans son accord, sans être en guerre contre elle et sans avoir été attaqué ou menacé d'être attaqué par la Syrie.

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dexter79

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Perso j'y croirais quand ce sera fait et si rien ne se passe après pendant au moins 50 ans. C'est pas la première fois que ces messieurs nous assurent qu'ils veulent la paix, combien de poignets de mains déjà échangées en grande pompe devant un parterre de journalistes ?! Et ca continue à s'étriper.

 

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Tremendo

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Quand on voit le chiffre des condamnations à la Corée du nord, à la Chine ou à l'Arabie Saoudite, tu te dis que le conseil des droits de l'homme de l'ONU est un epic fail. Et le Venezuela ou Cuba ? pas entendu parler. Mugabe? qui?

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Tramp

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condamnations pour quoi ?

condamnations prononcées par qui ?

l'affiche est pour le moins (sans doute à dessein) ambigüe

Si tu lis : Conseil des droits de l'homme de l'ONU. Et si tu réfléchis : pour violation des droits de l'homme.

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