Kent Mcmanigal

[Patrick Smets]

I like it.

Ah ! What did I say ? It is not a blague de merde.

What do you think of this one?

[José]

It is not a blague de merde

[Mobius]

ROFLMAO.

[Kent McManigal]

The right to use deadly force in order to protect people or property as nothing to do with death penalty. It's not a punishment, it's a protection !

I agree. I am against the death penalty. Some Americans do not understand how a person can be against the death penalty but still be for the use of deadly force. I see you have no problem making the distinction. That is good.

It is refreshing discussing these things with all of you here. Even with any language difficulties it seems like you understand what I am saying at a deeper level than many other groups I have talked with.

[h16]

Liberaux.org is known to be of high standard

[A.B.]

I like it. What do you think of this one?

I can't find the any ahoy key

[Kent McManigal]

I can't find the any ahoy key

Planned obsolescence. Pehaps that is on the upgraded model that comes out next year.

[Nico]

In America, a strong majority of americans thinks that capitalism is the best system in the world with chinese. You have a big government, it's true, when we see the America history, but it's not French government. You can't do anything in France because State is alone with public services in health, scools, games, etc… French people thinks that France is a very capitalist and libertarian country whereas we have 54 % of obligatary prelievments, more rich paid 71 % of taxes, we have 133 taxes for anything… We can't create a business because regulations, we can't work in the night, we paid products in shopping center more higher than in US ( when in US you paid 15 dollars we paid 90 dollars ! ). But when you heard this stupidity, what will be a socialist society ??? A society like North Corea ?!

French people thinks that Cuba is a better system, that eastern europeans have a better life when they were in the URSS. Do you know that intellectuals regrets a lot the death of Mao Zedoug, un mad who have killed millions of his people ? Do you know the fact that the CGT leader in the 1980 said that URSS life level is better than America life lever ? They are completly stupid, idiots, they don't know anything of the reality of these systems and I think that they don't know this reality, because they prefers dream a lot.

You can believe me, Kent, I know a lot America because my father have worked for an American society, Datastream, who works in computing programs, situated in Greenville, South Caorolina. I have known a lot of States like California, Arizona, Nevada, Hawaii. I know that we have a bigger government in America, that we have problems, that America is not perfect but I prefer very much American people, American society, than the French mentality.

[Nico]

Howewer, I'm not agree with all you ideas, because I am a pro-life conservative and supports troops.

[phantom_opera]

Liberaux.org is known to be of high standard

Hey h16, you know what? We should create more topics about famous libertarians through the world, and maybe one of them would check its topic via google. It's funny to talk to famous libertarians in the forum!

I like it. What do you think of this one?

AH! AH! AH!

[A.B.]

Howewer, I'm not agree with all you ideas, because I am a pro-life conservative and supports troops.

I'm also "pro-life" since I consider that a woman's life only belong to herself. I also support troops : they'd probably prefer to be home and I support that !

[Ash]

Howewer, I'm not agree with all you ideas, because I am a pro-life conservative and supports troops.

Which troops ? You're french…

I'm also "pro-life" since I consider that a woman's life only belong to herself.

Yes we know… and her foetus an unidentified parasite.

[phantom_opera]

Which troops ? You're french…

Don't say that! You know that he doesn't know what a nationality is!

[Invité Arn0]

Some Americans do not understand how a person can be against the death penalty but still be for the use of deadly force. I see you have no problem making the distinction. That is good.

You can say that : in Europe, where death penalty was abolished, the right to kill in state of self-defense still exist (even if it's in a restricted version).

[h16]

@ash & AB : merci de rester sur le sujet initial - stay on topic, folks.

You can say that : in Europe, where death penalty was abolished, the right to kill in state of self-defense still exist (even if it's in a restricted version).

Restricted is a delicate oephemism. In case you really intend to use some day this right of self-defense, prepare yourself for a long and disappointing trial.

[Invité Arn0]

Restricted is a delicate oephemism. In case you really intend to use some day this right of self-defense, prepare yourself for a long and disappointing trial.

I have accidently erased a "very" while editing my post.

[Nico]

I'm also "pro-life" since I consider that a woman's life only belong to herself. I also support troops : they'd probably prefer to be home and I support that !

It's not the same, AB, but I understand that, you have an european point of view. It's more different in America, where every american, except the more extremists liberals, supports americans soldiers. You know we have american interests in a lot of countries and we must react against authoritarian regims, like Chavez in Venezuela, or Castro in Cuba, and destroy them. We have a lot of liberals newspaper who said that we must not interfere in this countries. But it's impossible. Look the situation of girls in Afghanistan during the taliban regim. Look theses men and women who suffers a lot with Castro regim, with Chavez policy… Look our eastern brothers who had suffered a lot with URSS regim… We have destroyed URSS, we have destroyed Nicaraguan marxists… We destroyed actually the Colombian cartels to win the war on drugs…

Don't say that! You know that he doesn't know what a nationality is!

Yeah, unfortunetely, I was born in France. I know that, but I hope that I will have the american nationality more quickly.

[Invité Arn0]

It's not the same, AB, but I understand that, you have an european point of view. It's more different in America, where every american, except the more extremists liberals, supports americans soldiers. You know we have american interests in a lot of countries and we must react against authoritarian regims, like Chavez in Venezuela, or Castro in Cuba, and destroy them. We have a lot of liberals newspaper who said that we must not interfere in this countries. But it's impossible. Look the situation of girls in Afghanistan during the taliban regim. Look theses men and women who suffers a lot with Castro regim, with Chavez policy… Look our eastern brothers who had suffered a lot with URSS regim… We have destroyed URSS, we have destroyed Nicaraguan marxists… We destroyed actually the Colombian cartels to win the war on drugs…

Are you an american ?

If you want to be nationalist at least be a french nationalist ! Why don't you support french troops in Lebanon, Ivory Coast or Afghanistan ?

[A.B.]

It's not the same, AB, but I understand that, you have an european point of view. It's more different in America, where every american, except the more extremists liberals, supports americans soldiers. You know we have american interests in a lot of countries…

I live in America, you don't.

As I said I believe the best way to support the soldiers is to bring them home, I don't see how insisting that they stay and be killed is "supportive".

[phantom_opera]

I live in America, you don't.

Please AB! Don't break his dream!

[h16]

@ all : stay on topic.

@ nico : no pics, please.

[Kent McManigal]

We destroyed actually the Colombian cartels to win the war on drugs…

Really? How did I miss that? So the War on Drugs is over? All I thought happened was that the War on Drugs gave big government the excuse to militarize the local police forces and to destroy what was left of the Bill of Rights. It gave police reasons to kick in doors in the middle of the night and shoot old grandmothers to death. People are still having their families destroyed for having parts of a dried plant in their homes. Parts of a plant! Do you know how ridiculous that is? People are killed by police over a plant!

Troops:

"Troops" is just a fancy way of referring to people the government sends to other countries to anger, rape, steal from, and kill the locals. I have friends in the military. I don't want them to be hurt or killed. But I also don't want them hurting or killing anyone else. If a foreign army was marching around my town with machine guns and tanks I would try to kill as many of them as possible… for defense of my home. If they killed my friends and family I would possibly go insane with hatred for the country they came from. Can't the US government see that they are making more terrorists by becoming terrorists in the countries they invade with troops? I think they do know and do it purposely. The War on Terror has given government more power than they had ever dreamed of. I don't recognize "American interests" in other countries. This is usually understood to mean "US government interests" or interests of corporations that the US government favors. The only real interests are individual interests.

Abortion: This is something I have written and posted on a few different places, with minor changes as the ideas strike me:

I think "abortion" is an issue that is used in order to cause division and dissent. I don't think it is a political issue; or at least shouldn't be one. I believe abortion is a religious issue and therefore falls under the First Amendment (Freedom of religion); it is outside the scope of what government is allowed to control. All objections to abortion are at the core religious objections, which is fine until you try to impose your religion on someone else who does not share your same religious views.

I would not use public funds (government money) to finance abortions (or any other medical procedures), because there is no such thing as "public funds"; it is all stolen money.

Personally and morally I have several thoughts.

First of all, I am not a woman and can't get pregnant, so for me to pretend that I know what is best would be dishonest.

Second, I don't think there is enough scientific data to make a truly rational decision. A fertilized egg is life, but not a separate life. There are religious ideas of when the embryo becomes a separate life-form from the mother, but not really any convincing scientific proofs. I do know that once a baby is born it is a separate life-form, a person, with all its human rights intact.

I can't remember anything that happened to me before I was around 2 or 3 years old. I went through some traumatic experiences that I can't recall at all, so it really doesn't concern me that they occurred. Is this a good way to determine whether abortion is right or wrong? Probably not.

I don't really like abortion, but would not forbid it to people who feel differently than I do about it. I do not think abortion is a good first choice for birth control, but in some cases could be viewed as a trespassing type situation. I also believe that since women can, and should be allowed to, terminate a pregnancy through abortion, men should be able to legally terminate any financial or parental responsibility for a child that they do not wish to father.

[Kent McManigal]

Restricted is a delicate oephemism. In case you really intend to use some day this right of self-defense, prepare yourself for a long and disappointing trial.

That is also the case in many parts of America. I think the legal problems are worth it, though. Some places like New York City strictly outlaw self defense. I try to stay away from socialistic places like that. The right to self defense is the foundation of everything else and any laws restricting it are complete "merde" (if that is the word…).

[Jeeves]

"merde" (if that is the word…).

[A.B.]

I try to stay away from socialistic places like that.

still it's an improvement over Paris, believe me

[Kent McManigal]

I have lived in a few places around America. Some places are pretty free; others are very socialistic. Some places actually have pretty bad laws governing them, but most of the people ignore the laws and simply go about their lives regardless of what any "authorities" demand. Where I am living now is not too bad as far as the laws go, but the people have a fawning attitude toward "authority" that I find disgusting. They live as though they are subject to more rules than they actually are. My flippant attitude toward the stupid laws meets with shocked disbelief. Even my close friends will say "You don't CARE what the law is???" I refer to police officers as "enforcers" or "terrorists" depending upon what they are doing at the time. I have a Time's Up flag flying from my house and a small one on my car. Freedom, true freedom, comes from your own mind. I don't know how many of you have read this article I wrote for Strike the Root a while ago, or this one I wrote for The Libertarian Enterprise. I don't know how much the "authorities" watch people who write things like this. They probably ignore us completely, thinking that as long as we keep venting our frustration harmlessly, we will not start the revolution. What they don't realize is that the revolution starts in our minds. We are watering the seeds of freedom with every thought. We are ignoring the government edicts a little more every day. It has begun and will only grow. Socialistic governments only cause those seeds of liberty to germinate faster and spread to more minds with every idiotic law or control they impose on us.

I don't know where in America you live A.B., but you can increase your own freedom there, as can those of you in France, or even in a Turkish prison. Don't let the state worshippers trick you into accepting your chains. Turn them into jewelry if you can't toss them aside. And if A.B. or any of you ever get a chance to meet me in person, I would be glad to meet you.

I may turn this into a blog post.

[A.B.]

I don't know where in America you live A.B.

I've been living in New-York for two years now.

And if A.B. or any of you ever get a chance to meet me in person, I would be glad to meet you.

Great, let met know if you come around here.

[Kent McManigal]

I've been living in New-York for two years now.

Great, let met know if you come around here.

I live about 3 hours northwest of you near Scranton, Pennsylvania. As I said, I avoid NYC, but if you wanted to meet halfway someday, we might be able to arrange something.

[Invité Arn0]

I try to stay away from socialistic places like that.

Then never come to France : you may not survive !

[Kent McManigal]

Then never come to France : you may not survive !

I'd never survive "airport security". Even the last time I flew (summer of 2000) I later found a bullet in my pocket after trying really hard to make sure I had nothing that might make the control-freaks upset. It just isn't worth it anymore to try to be allowed on a plane. I am probably on the US government's "no fly list" anyway.