melodius Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Certes, mais je trouve plutôt pernicieux de poser comme thème de recherche : "les inégalités de QI entre les hommes et les femmes". En fait, je ne vois pas à quels problèmes est censée répondre cette étude, à moins qu'elle ne vise qu'à justifier d'autres inégalités entre les hommes et les femmes qui en découleraient. Si "les présupposés idéologiques du savant n'ont aucune importance tant qu'ils n'influent pas sur la méthode qui est le seul critère en science", ils peuvent néanmoins déterminer pour une large part la formation de son hypothèse de départ. Il y a quelque chose de pas très sain dans le fait de s'interroger sur l'intelligence de tel groupe social par rapport à tel autre, ne serait-ce que dans le simple fait de stigmatiser l'un ou l'autre de ces groupes. Je répète ma question : A quoi sert cette étude ? A quel problème ou à quelle question est-elle censée répondre ? La thèse "les femmes ont un QI moins élevé que les hommes" a-t-elle valeur de loi scientifique ? Ca, c'est une interrogation valable, contrairement à "c'est du n'importe quoi" alors que visiblement ce ne l'est pas tant que cela, ou "si tu dis ça c'est parce que t'as un petit zizi", "argumentation" que charitablement, je m'abstiendrai de commenter. Ceci étant, les intérêts en balance ne sont pas sans importance, et l'expérience démontre que tenter de supprimer une vérité (je ne dis pas que c'est ce dont il s'agit dans ce cas précis, mais ton argumentation possède une portée plus large) a rarement été une preuve de lumière. « La pollution idéologique dans la science, c’est la forme que prend un discours lorsqu’il sert à justifier un désir caché. C’est aussi un discours logique lorsqu’il sert d’alibi à un discours affectif, inconscient. A ce titre, le discours scientifique possède une fonction idéologique, en plus et en trop. La définition crée alors l’objet défini. Un fait de nature, lui, n’a pas besoin d’une définition pour exister. Certes, une définition permet de mieux en prendre conscience et de mieux communiquer. Mais elle permet au fait de mieux exister dans notre conscience et le déforme en l’intellectualisant, en le trahissant. » (Boris Cyrulnik, Mémoires de singe et paroles d’homme) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ou comment enfoncer une porte ouverte. Il est évident qu'un scientifique qui entreprend des recherches désire démontrer que son intuition est exacte, et qu'il aura toujours une motivation psychologique. Faut-il pour autant dire "haha, ta mère est morte du cancer donc tes travaux à ce sujet n'ont aucune valeur ?"
Punu Posté 26 août 2005 Auteur Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Certes, mais je trouve plutôt pernicieux de poser comme thème de recherche : "les inégalités de QI entre les hommes et les femmes". En fait, je ne vois pas à quels problèmes est censée répondre cette étude, à moins qu'elle ne vise qu'à justifier d'autres inégalités entre les hommes et les femmes qui en découleraient. Si "les présupposés idéologiques du savant n'ont aucune importance tant qu'ils n'influent pas sur la méthode qui est le seul critère en science", ils peuvent néanmoins déterminer pour une large part la formation de son hypothèse de départ. Il y a quelque chose de pas très sain dans le fait de s'interroger sur l'intelligence de tel groupe social par rapport à tel autre, ne serait-ce que dans le simple fait de stigmatiser l'un ou l'autre de ces groupes. Je répète ma question : A quoi sert cette étude ? A quel problème ou à quelle question est-elle censée répondre ? La thèse "les femmes ont un QI moins élevé que les hommes" a-t-elle valeur de loi scientifique ?« La pollution idéologique dans la science, c’est la forme que prend un discours lorsqu’il sert à justifier un désir caché. C’est aussi un discours logique lorsqu’il sert d’alibi à un discours affectif, inconscient. A ce titre, le discours scientifique possède une fonction idéologique, en plus et en trop. La définition crée alors l’objet défini. Un fait de nature, lui, n’a pas besoin d’une définition pour exister. Certes, une définition permet de mieux en prendre conscience et de mieux communiquer. Mais elle permet au fait de mieux exister dans notre conscience et le déforme en l’intellectualisant, en le trahissant. » (Boris Cyrulnik, Mémoires de singe et paroles d’homme) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Cher Kamarad politik, Il y a certains faits, comme par exemple que seuls 3.5 % des lauréats des prix Nobel (Paix non comprise) sont des femmes. Dès lors, il est normal de tenter de trouver une réponse à cette bizarrerie. Je suppose que tu vas me dire que c'est parce que les hommes sont des vilains qui ont empêché les femmes de se former, mais alors je te dirai que sur la période 1901-1950, il y eut 4 % de lauréats féminins, et seulement 3 % sur la période 1951-2000. Pour terminer, je te conseille de lire ce livre qui décrit fort bien ton attitude :
Taranne Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Certes, mais je trouve plutôt pernicieux de poser comme thème de recherche : "les inégalités de QI entre les hommes et les femmes". Pourquoi? Aucun sujet n'est tabou en science. En fait, je ne vois pas à quels problèmes est censée répondre cette étude, à moins qu'elle ne vise qu'à justifier d'autres inégalités entre les hommes et les femmes qui en découleraient. C'est du pur procès d'intention. En outre, le but de la science n'est pas de résoudre des problèmes, mais d'expliquer le monde, quand bien même le sujet de l'expérience ne présente que peu ou pas d'intérêt immédiat, ou déplait à certains. La question de l'utilité est donc sans objet. Si "les présupposés idéologiques du savant n'ont aucune importance tant qu'ils n'influent pas sur la méthode qui est le seul critère en science", ils peuvent néanmoins déterminer pour une large part la formation de son hypothèse de départ. Peut-être, mais influencent-ils le résultat? Il y a quelque chose de pas très sain dans le fait de s'interroger sur l'intelligence de tel groupe social par rapport à tel autre, ne serait-ce que dans le simple fait de stigmatiser l'un ou l'autre de ces groupes. La science constate. Ce sont les hommes qui stigmatisent. Encore une fois, si l'on évite les sujets brûlants susceptibles de déplaire à quelqu'un ou quelqu'une, on risque de ne pas beaucoup avancer. La thèse "les femmes ont un QI moins élevé que les hommes" a-t-elle valeur de loi scientifique ? Si elle se vérifie (ce dont je doute) oui. Mais personne n'est obligé d'en tirer des conclusions morales ou légales.
Ronnie Hayek Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Tu as oublié dans la liste de Gardner la fameuse "intelligence musicale", qui a d'ailleurs été réfutée. De mon temps, on appelait l' "intelligence manuelle" l'habileté, l' "intelligence corporelle" la psychomotricité, l' "intelligence sociale" la sociabilité et l' "intelligence personnelle" la responsabilité. C'est encore une fois un coup marketing pour dire : tout n'est pas foutu, chacun est intelligent à sa manière. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sans oublier l' "intelligence du coeur" !
Punu Posté 26 août 2005 Auteur Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Ta signature m'a bien fait marrer ! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Repris texto du dernier Ciné-Télé-Revue ! Je l'ai trouvée excellente également.
Taisei Yokusankai Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 En ce qui concerne la méthode statistique, sujet dont j'ignore tout, je relève par ailleurs que si on démontre que Murray s'est planté sur ce point, ça ne signifie pas qu'il n'y a aucun lien entre QI et race (pour faire court) mais tout simplement qu'il n'est pas parvenu à démontrer qu'il y en avait un, ce qui est tout de même légèrement différent. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Non, en effet. Cela souligne juste que personne n'a aucune preuve crédible à ce sujet. Je remarque que cet élément de stat est la seule des critiques mentionnées à laquelle gadrel n'a pas répondu.
Punu Posté 26 août 2005 Auteur Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Et ça, c'est quoi ? http://www.liberaux.org/index.php?showtopic=20014&st=30#
Taisei Yokusankai Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Et ça, c'est quoi ? http://www.liberaux.org/index.php?showtopic=20014&st=30# <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Je ne vois rien sur la page à laquelle tu me renvoies qui parle d'utilisation de stats, et encore moins qui consiste une réponse à ceci: http://www.srv.net/~msdata/bell.html
Punu Posté 26 août 2005 Auteur Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Le message 52. Je parle longuement de l'utilisation de la Loi normale.
Taisei Yokusankai Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Tu penses à quel passage ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Je pensais au passage en gras en particulier, c'est celui là qui est censé être le plus fort, j'imagine. Pour ce fameux message 52, il ne se trouvait pas sur la page à laquelle tu me renvoyais et je ne suis pas sûr que ce soit vraiment une réponse apte à balayer les objections du passage dont je parle. Ceci dit, je ne suis pas renommé pour ma maîtrise des stats ou des maths. C'est pourquoi je soumets ces questions à l'avis de personnes plus éclairées que moi.
Fredo Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Je le répète, deux phénomènes peuvent être en corrélation et pourtant n'avoir aucune relation entre eux. Et je réitère ma question : On a constaté que chez les étudiants, le niveau d'études en sciences physiques augmente avec la taille des pieds ! Pourquoi ? (Je donnerai la réponse si personne ne trouve )
melodius Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Parce que les nerds ne se lavent pas et que ça fait pousser les pieds ?
Fredo Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Bon, allez : Parce qu'en fac de sciences il y a plus de garçons que de filles.
melodius Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Putain, tu veux dire que tu crois à cette légende au sujet de la corrélation entre taille des pieds et du zob ? melo aux petits pieds
Kimon Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 melo aux petits pieds <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ouais enfin y a pas de quoi écrire des sonnets pour les chanter.
melodius Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Ouais enfin y a pas de quoi écrire des sonnets pour les chanter. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Je sais je sais, on ne parle pas de déclin sur un forum d'un Français.
Kimon Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Je sais je sais, on ne parle pas de déclin sur un forum de Français. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Bon, arrête de sous-entendre, veux-tu ?
melodius Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Bon, arrête de sous-entendre, veux-tu ? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Je n'ai pas compris.
Fredo Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Mélo, j'ai pas dit que j'y croyais, c'est un FAIT ! Oui, il y a bien corrélation entre taille des pieds et niveau d'études atteint en sciences physiques !! Je n'ai pas dit que ç avait du sens. C'est juste pour illustrer (j'ai appris cette "anecdote" en cours de méthodologie) que corrélation ne signifie pas causalité ! Juste deux phénomènes qui évoluent "ensemble". Souvent c'est parce qu'il y a une variable parasite qu'on a oublié ou bien un problème de description de la population. Dans ce cas là voilà l'explication : il y a plus de garçons inscrits en fac de sciences que de filles. Or le terme étudiant mélange les sexes. Ensuite, les garçons ont généralement des pieds plus grands. D'où l'observation.
Fredo Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Et donc pour dire que constater une corrélation ou montrer des différences statistiques entre groupes n'a aucun sens en soi. Il faut soit une théorie qui explique, soit se demander si la corrélation n'est pas due à un problème de construction et que des variables parasites nous ont échappé.
antietat Posté 26 août 2005 Signaler Posté 26 août 2005 Je ne vais pas reprendre la liste de toutes les inexactitudes (surtout le premier slogan, qui ne ressemble - comme tous les slogans - -à rien). Un quotient intellectuel, pour mériter ce nom, devrait donner un reflet exact de la TOTALITE des activités intellectuelles d'un individu. Or ce n'est pas la cas. Comme je l'ai dit, et je le maintiens, l'intuition la créativité ne sont pas prises en compte dans ces études comparatives. (et à mon avis l'induction est souvent sous représentée). Le QI cherche à mesurer l'Intelligence Générale, c'est-à-dire le Facteur g, c'est-à-dire une Caractéristique Biologique. Il ne s'agit pas d'une mesure directe (comme on peut mesurer directement la taille de quelqu'un avec un mètre), mais d'une mesure indirecte (comme si on mesurait la taille de quelqu'un en se référant à son ombre sur un sol inégal) : la mesure n'est donc pas parfaite. Mais, avec l'avancement des tests, on estime la fiabilité des tests de QI comme supérieure à 70%, ce qui n'est pas mal Pour commencer il ne s'agit pas d'un quotient. Le QI est le résultat d'un cuisine à trois ingrédients. Premièrement le facteur G est le résultat de 2 calculs d'analyse factorielle. Un premier qui est celui du facteur qu'est censé mesurer le test et un second qui calcule le facteur commun aux tests de la batterie. En dernier lieu on compare cela auxs résultats de la totalité de la population. Il ne s'agit donc pas d'une mesure même indirecte, loin de là mais d'une construction. D'ailleurs la question se pose très sérieusement de savoir ce qui est "mesuré". En clair quelle est la réalité psychologique représentée par ce triple calcul ? QI (Quotient Intellectuel) est le terme générique employé depuis 1912, pour désigner les différents tests psychométriques d'intelligence, ou pour désigner le résultat obtenu à un de ces tests Abusivement ! La seule chose que tu puisses faire pour comparer des individus ou des populations. C'est de prendre un test, de collationner les résultats d'un ensemble d'individus de mêmes caractéristiques, de faire passer ensuite le test à un individu et de constater ensuite dans quel décile ou centile il se situe. Tu peux alors dire comme il se situe par rapport à la population de référence. C'est beaucoup moins sujet à critique que le QI. Il existe plusieurs types de QI, qui donnent des notations différentes (voir ci-après). Il ne s'agit pas de QI mais de facteurs intellectuels. Et on dit que chaque test est plus ou moins saturé de ce facteur. Cependant tous sont des tests psychométriques : c'est-à-dire des tests normalisés qui comparent les performances d'un individu à des questions précises par rapport aux réponses de l'ensemble de la population aux mêmes questions. Ils sont étalonnés, ce que je viens de dire précédemment. Les tests de QI peuvent se passer soit en face à face avec le psychologue, qui pose les problèmes et mesure les résultats (il peut y avoir chronométrage), soit seul devant une feuille avec un temps limité (QCM), ou avec un temps illimité (notamment pour mesurer la haute efficience intellectuelle : les QI extrêmes). Ils mesurent donc un rendement pour les tests courants. Ils comprennent un certain nombre de questions, parfois regroupées en plusieurs subtests. On distingue généralement : Les (sub)tests verbaux : basés sur la connaissance de la langue, ce peut être trouver le mot qui ne correspond pas dans une liste (ex : dans la liste (maison, demeure, château, masure, niche), c'est "niche" qui ne correspond pas à un habitat humain) Les (sub)tests de performance : ce peut être des tests de mémoire (lisez une fois : 1, 3, 2, 7, 9, 6 et récitez-le à l'envers) ; ce peut être des tests de construction (à partir de cube colorés, reconstituer une image) ; Les (sub)tests logiques : les plus célèbres, souvent basés sur les suites (ex : 1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11 … le suivant est 13) Au passage construire un index synthétique avec tout cela a pour effet de renvoyer dans la moyenne des individus ayant de très bonnes performances dans un domaine et très mauvaise dans un autre. C'est souvent le cas des femmes qui sont plus à l'aise avec les tests verbaux. Avec pour effet qu'une femme étiquetée comme moyennement intelligente pourra se révéler éblouissante le domaine ou elle excelle. Le contraire est valable pour certains hommes qui apparaissent comme des crétins quand il s'agit de s'exprimer verbalement et remarquables placés face un problème abstrait. Et ceci renvoie à l'utilisation qu'on fait des tests. Pour la sélection professionnelle le calcul d'un QI ne sert strictement à RIEN. La satisfaction personnelle d'être plus intelligent que les autres ? Très bien mais c'est facile, là aussi il est plus intéressant de savoir si on est plus performant que ses pairs et pour ça les étalonnages sont plus indiqués. L'utilisation politique enfin, les noirs sont moins intelligents que les blancs, les hommes plus que les femmes etc… Ouais, dans quel but ? Le seul amour de la science ? PS : En dehors de l'attribution de la notion de QI à Binet au lieu de Catell peut tu me faire la liste des inexactitudes de mon premier post car moi, je n'en aperçois toujours pas !
Punu Posté 27 août 2005 Auteur Signaler Posté 27 août 2005 Un texte particulièrement intéressant de Charles Murray vient justement de paraître à ce sujet. Coïncidence ! Ceux qui veulent aller au coeur de l'article peuvent directement commencer au point 1. http://www.commentarymagazine.com/producti…murray0905.htmlCOMMENTARY September 2005 The Inequality Taboo* Charles Murray When the late Richard Herrnstein and I published The Bell Curve eleven years ago, the furor over its discussion of ethnic differences in IQ was so intense that most people who have not read the book still think it was about race. Since then, I have deliberately not published anything about group differences in IQ, mostly to give the real topic of The Bell Curve-the role of intelligence in reshaping America's class structure-a chance to surface. The Lawrence Summers affair last January made me rethink my silence. The president of Harvard University offered a few mild, speculative, off-the-record remarks about innate differences between men and women in their aptitude for high-level science and mathematics, and was treated by Harvard's faculty as if he were a crank. The typical news story portrayed the idea of innate sex differences as a renegade position that reputable scholars rejected. It was depressingly familiar. In the autumn of 1994, I had watched with dismay as The Bell Curve's scientifically unremarkable statements about black IQ were successfully labeled as racist pseudoscience. At the opening of 2005, I watched as some scientifically unremarkable statements about male-female differences were successfully labeled as sexist pseudoscience. The Orwellian disinformation about innate group differences is not wholly the media's fault. Many academics who are familiar with the state of knowledge are afraid to go on the record. Talking publicly can dry up research funding for senior professors and can cost assistant professors their jobs. But while the public's misconception is understandable, it is also getting in the way of clear thinking about American social policy. Good social policy can be based on premises that have nothing to do with scientific truth. The premise that is supposed to undergird all of our social policy, the founders' assertion of an unalienable right to liberty, is not a falsifiable hypothesis. But specific policies based on premises that conflict with scientific truths about human beings tend not to work. Often they do harm. One such premise is that the distribution of innate abilities and propensities is the same across different groups. The statistical tests for uncovering job discrimination assume that men are not innately different from women, blacks from whites, older people from younger people, homosexuals from heterosexuals, Latinos from Anglos, in ways that can legitimately affect employment decisions. Title IX of the Educational Amendments of 1972 assumes that women are no different from men in their attraction to sports. Affirmative action in all its forms assumes there are no innate differences between any of the groups it seeks to help and everyone else. The assumption of no innate differences among groups suffuses American social policy. That assumption is wrong. When the outcomes that these policies are supposed to produce fail to occur, with one group falling short, the fault for the discrepancy has been assigned to society. It continues to be assumed that better programs, better regulations, or the right court decisions can make the differences go away. That assumption is also wrong. Hence this essay. Most of the following discussion describes reasons for believing that some group differences are intractable. I shift from "innate" to "intractable" to acknowledge how complex is the interaction of genes, their expression in behavior, and the environment. "Intractable" means that, whatever the precise partitioning of causation may be (we seldom know), policy interventions can only tweak the difference at the margins. I will focus on two sorts of differences: between men and women and between blacks and whites. Here are three crucial points to keep in mind as we go along: 1. The differences I discuss involve means and distributions. In all cases, the variation within groups is greater than the variation between groups. On psychological and cognitive dimensions, some members of both sexes and all races fall everywhere along the range. One implication of this is that genius does not come in one color or sex, and neither does any other human ability. Another is that a few minutes of conversation with individuals you meet will tell you much more about them than their group membership does. 2. Covering both sex differences and race differences in a single, non-technical article, I had to leave out much in the print edition of this article. This online version is fully annotated and includes extensive supplementary material. 3. The concepts of "inferiority" and "superiority" are inappropriate to group comparisons. On most specific human attributes, it is possible to specify a continuum running from "low" to "high," but the results cannot be combined into a score running from "bad" to "good." What is the best score on a continuum measuring aggressiveness? What is the relative importance of verbal skills versus, say, compassion? Of spatial skills versus industriousness? The aggregate excellences and shortcomings of human groups do not lend themselves to simple comparisons. That is why the members of just about every group can so easily conclude that they are God's chosen people. All of us use the weighting system that favors our group's strengths.1 II The technical literature documenting sex differences and their biological basis grew surreptitiously during feminism's heyday in the 1970's and 1980's. By the 1990's, it had become so extensive that the bibliography in David Geary's pioneering Male, Female (1998) ran to 53 pages.2 Currently, the best short account of the state of knowledge is Steven Pinker's chapter on gender in The Blank Slate (2002).3 Rather than present a telegraphic list of all the differences that I think have been established, I will focus on the narrower question at the heart of the Summers controversy: as groups, do men and women differ innately in characteristics that produce achievement at the highest levels of accomplishment? I will limit my comments to the arts and sciences. Since we live in an age when students are likely to hear more about Marie Curie than about Albert Einstein, it is worth beginning with a statement of historical fact: women have played a proportionally tiny part in the history of the arts and sciences.4 Even in the 20th century, women got only 2 percent of the Nobel Prizes in the sciences-a proportion constant for both halves of the century-and 10 percent of the prizes in literature. The Fields Medal, the most prestigious award in mathematics, has been given to 44 people since it originated in 1936. All have been men. The historical reality of male dominance of the greatest achievements in science and the arts is not open to argument. The question is whether the social and legal exclusion of women is a sufficient explanation for this situation, or whether sex-specific characteristics are also at work. Mathematics offers an entry point for thinking about the answer. Through high school, girls earn better grades in math than boys, but the boys usually do better on standardized tests.5 The difference in means is modest, but the male advantage increases as the focus shifts from means to extremes. In a large sample of mathematically gifted youths, for example, seven times as many males as females scored in the top percentile of the SAT mathematics test.6 We do not have good test data on the male-female ratio at the top one-hundredth or top one-thousandth of a percentile, where first-rate mathematicians are most likely to be found, but collateral evidence suggests that the male advantage there continues to increase, perhaps exponentially.7 Evolutionary biologists have some theories that feed into an explanation for the disparity. In primitive societies, men did the hunting, which often took them far from home. Males with the ability to recognize landscapes from different orientations and thereby find their way back had a survival advantage. Men who could process trajectories in three dimensions-the trajectory, say, of a spear thrown at an edible mammal-also had a survival advantage.8 Women did the gathering. Those who could distinguish among complex arrays of vegetation, remembering which were the poisonous plants and which the nourishing ones, also had a survival advantage. Thus the logic for explaining why men should have developed elevated three-dimensional visuospatial skills and women an elevated ability to remember objects and their relative locations-differences that show up in specialized tests today.9 Perhaps this is a just-so story.10 Why not instead attribute the results of these tests to socialization? Enter the neuroscientists. It has been known for years that, even after adjusting for body size, men have larger brains than women. Yet most psychometricians conclude that men and women have the same mean IQ (although debate on this issue is growing).11 One hypothesis for explaining this paradox is that three-dimensional processing absorbs the extra male capacity. In the last few years, magnetic-resonance imaging has refined the evidence for this hypothesis, revealing that parts of the brain's parietal cortex associated with space perception are proportionally bigger in men than in women.12 What does space perception have to do with scores on math tests?13 Enter the psychometricians, who demonstrate that when visuospatial ability is taken into account, the sex difference in SAT math scores shrinks substantially.14 Why should the difference be so much greater at the extremes than at the mean? Part of the answer is that men consistently exhibit higher variance than women on all sorts of characteristics, including visuospatial abilities, meaning that there are proportionally more men than women at both ends of the bell curve.15 Another part of the answer is that someone with a high verbal IQ can easily master the basic algebra, geometry, and calculus that make up most of the items in an ordinary math test. Elevated visuospatial skills are most useful for the most difficult items.16 If males have an advantage in answering those comparatively few really hard items, the increasing disparity at the extremes becomes explicable. Seen from one perspective, this pattern demonstrates what should be obvious: there is nothing inherent in being a woman that precludes high math ability. But there remains a distributional difference in male and female characteristics that leads to a larger number of men with high visuospatial skills. The difference has an evolutionary rationale, a physiological basis, and a direct correlation with math scores. Now put all this alongside the historical data on accomplishment in the arts and sciences. In test scores, the male advantage is most pronounced in the most abstract items. Historically, too, it is most pronounced in the most abstract domains of accomplishment.17 In the humanities, the most abstract field is philosophy-and no woman has been a significant original thinker in any of the world's great philosophical traditions. In the sciences, the most abstract field is mathematics, where the number of great women mathematicians is approximately two (Emmy Noether definitely, Sonya Kovalevskaya maybe). In the other hard sciences, the contributions of great women scientists have usually been empirical rather than theoretical, with leading cases in point being Henrietta Leavitt, Dorothy Hodgkin, Lise Meitner, Irène Joliot-Curie, and Marie Curie herself. In the arts, literature is the least abstract and by far the most rooted in human interaction; visual art incorporates a greater admixture of the abstract; musical composition is the most abstract of all the arts, using neither words nor images. The role of women has varied accordingly. Women have been represented among great writers virtually from the beginning of literature, in East Asia and South Asia as well as in the West. Women have produced a smaller number of important visual artists, and none that is clearly in the first rank. No female composer is even close to the first rank. Social restrictions undoubtedly damped down women's contributions in all of the arts, but the pattern of accomplishment that did break through is strikingly consistent with what we know about the respective strengths of male and female cognitive repertoires. Women have their own cognitive advantages over men, many of them involving verbal fluency and interpersonal skills. If this were a comprehensive survey, detailing those advantages would take up as much space as I have devoted to a particular male advantage. But, sticking with my restricted topic, I will move to another aspect of male-female differences that bears on accomplishment at the highest levels of the arts and sciences: motherhood. Regarding women, men, and babies, the technical literature is as unambiguous as everyday experience would lead one to suppose. As a rule, the experience of parenthood is more profoundly life-altering for women than for men. Nor is there anything unique about humans in this regard. Mammalian reproduction generally involves much higher levels of maternal than paternal investment in the raising of children.18 Among humans, extensive empirical study has demonstrated that women are more attracted to children than are men, respond to them more intensely on an emotional level, and get more and different kinds of satisfactions from nurturing them. Many of these behavioral differences have been linked with biochemical differences between men and women.19 Thus, for reasons embedded in the biochemistry and neurophysiology of being female, many women with the cognitive skills for achievement at the highest level also have something else they want to do in life: have a baby. In the arts and sciences, forty is the mean age at which peak accomplishment occurs, preceded by years of intense effort mastering the discipline in question.20 These are precisely the years during which most women must bear children if they are to bear them at all. Among women who have become mothers, the possibilities for high-level accomplishment in the arts and sciences shrink because, for innate reasons, the distractions of parenthood are greater. To put it in a way that most readers with children will recognize, a father can go to work and forget about his children for the whole day. Hardly any mother can do this, no matter how good her day-care arrangement or full-time nanny may be. My point is not that women must choose between a career and children, but that accomplishment at the extremes commonly comes from a single-minded focus that leaves no room for anything but the task at hand.21 We should not be surprised or dismayed to find that motherhood reduces the proportion of highly talented young women who are willing to make that tradeoff. Some numbers can be put to this observation through a study of nearly 2,000 men and women who were identified as extraordinarily talented in math at age thirteen and were followed up 20 years later.22 The women in the sample came of age in the 1970's and early 1980's, when women were actively socialized to resist gender stereotypes. In many ways, these talented women did resist. By their early thirties, both the men and women had become exceptional achievers, receiving advanced degrees in roughly equal proportions. Only about 15 percent of the women were full-time housewives. Among the women, those who did and those who did not have children were equally satisfied with their careers. And yet. The women with careers were four-and-a-half times more likely than men to say they preferred to work fewer than 40 hours per week. The men placed greater importance on "being successful in my line of work" and "inventing or creating something that will have an impact," while the women found greater value in "having strong friendships," "living close to parents and relatives," and "having a meaningful spiritual life." As the authors concluded, "these men and women appear to have constructed satisfying and meaningful lives that took somewhat different forms."23 The different forms, which directly influence the likelihood that men will dominate at the extreme levels of achievement, are consistent with a constellation of differences between men and women that have biological roots. I have omitted perhaps the most obvious reason why men and women differ at the highest levels of accomplishment: men take more risks, are more competitive, and are more aggressive than women.24 The word "testosterone" may come to mind, and appropriately. Much technical literature documents the hormonal basis of personality differences that bear on sex differences in extreme and venturesome effort, and hence in extremes of accomplishment-and that bear as well on the male propensity to produce an overwhelming proportion of the world's crime and approximately 100 percent of its wars. But this is just one more of the ways in which science is demonstrating that men and women are really and truly different, a fact so obvious that only intellectuals could ever have thought otherwise. III Turning to race, we must begin with the fraught question of whether it even exists, or whether it is instead a social construct. The Harvard geneticist Richard Lewontin originated the idea of race as a social construct in 1972, arguing that the genetic differences across races were so trivial that no scientist working exclusively with genetic data would sort people into blacks, whites, or Asians. In his words, "racial classification is now seen to be of virtually no genetic or taxonomic significance."25 Lewontin's position, which quickly became a tenet of political correctness, carried with it a potential means of being falsified. If he was correct, then a statistical analysis of genetic markers would not produce clusters corresponding to common racial labels. In the last few years, that test has become feasible, and now we know that Lewontin was wrong.26 Several analyses have confirmed the genetic reality of group identities going under the label of race or ethnicity.27 In the most recent, published this year, all but five of the 3,636 subjects fell into the cluster of genetic markers corresponding to their self-identified ethnic group.28 When a statistical procedure, blind to physical characteristics and working exclusively with genetic information, classifies 99.9 percent of the individuals in a large sample in the same way they classify themselves, it is hard to argue that race is imaginary. Homo sapiens actually falls into many more interesting groups than the bulky ones known as "races."29 As new findings appear almost weekly, it seems increasingly likely that we are just at the beginning of a process that will identify all sorts of genetic differences among groups, whether the groups being compared are Nigerian blacks and Kenyan blacks, lawyers and engineers, or Episcopalians and Baptists. At the moment, the differences that are obviously genetic involve diseases (Ashkenazi Jews and Tay-Sachs disease, black Africans and sickle-cell anemia, Swedes and hemochromatosis). As time goes on, we may yet come to understand better why, say, Italians are more vivacious than Scots. Out of all the interesting and intractable differences that may eventually be identified, one in particular remains a hot button like no other: the IQ difference between blacks and whites. What is the present state of our knowledge about it? There is no technical dispute on some of the core issues. In the aftermath of The Bell Curve, the American Psychological Association established a task force on intelligence whose report was published in early 1996.30 The task force reached the same conclusions as The Bell Curve on the size and meaningfulness of the black-white difference. Historically, it has been about one standard deviation31 in magnitude among subjects who have reached adolescence;32 cultural bias in IQ tests does not explain the difference; and the tests are about equally predictive of educational, social, and economic outcomes for blacks and whites. However controversial such assertions may still be in the eyes of the mainstream media, they are not controversial within the scientific community. The most important change in the state of knowledge since the mid-1990's lies in our increased understanding of what has happened to the size of the black-white difference over time. Both the task force and The Bell Curve concluded that some narrowing had occurred since the early 1970's. With the advantage of an additional decade of data, we are now able to be more precise: (1) The black-white difference in scores on educational achievement tests has narrowed significantly. (2) The black-white convergence in scores on the most highly "g?-loaded" tests-the tests that are the best measures of cognitive ability-has been smaller, and may be unchanged, since the first tests were administered 90 years ago. With regard to the difference in educational achievement, the narrowing of scores on major tests occurred in the 1970's and 80's. In the case of the SAT, the gaps in the verbal and math tests as of 1972 were 1.24 and 1.26 standard deviations respectively.33 By 1991, when the gaps were smallest (they have risen slightly since then), those numbers had dropped by .37 and .35 standard deviations. The National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), which is not limited to college-bound students, is preferable to the SAT for estimating nationally representative trends, but the story it tells is similar.34 Among students ages nine, thirteen, and seventeen, the black-white differences in math as of the first NAEP test in 1973 were 1.03, 1.29, and 1.24 standard deviations respectively. For nine-year-olds, the difference hit its all-time low of .73 standard deviations in 2004, a drop of .30 standard deviations. But almost all of that convergence had been reached by 1986, when the gap was .78 standard deviations. For thirteen-year-olds, the gap dropped by .45 standard deviations, reaching its low in 1986. For seventeen-year-olds, the gap dropped by .52 standard deviations, reaching its low in 1990. In the reading test, the comparable gaps for ages nine, thirteen, and seventeen as of the first NAEP test in 1971 were 1.12, 1.17, and 1.25 standard deviations. Those gaps had shrunk by .38, .62, and .68 standard deviations respectively at their lowest points in 1988.35 They have since remained effectively unchanged. An analysis by Larry Hedges and Amy Nowell uses a third set of data, examining the trends for high-school seniors by comparing six large data bases from different time periods from 1965 to 1992. The black-white difference on a combined measure of math, vocabulary, and reading fell from 1.18 to .82 standard deviations in that time, a reduction of .36 standard deviations.36 So black and white academic achievement converged significantly in the 1970's and 1980's, typically by more than a third of a standard deviation, and since then has stayed about the same.37 What about convergence in tests explicitly designed to measure IQ rather than academic achievement?38 The ambiguities in the data leave two defensible positions. The first is that the IQ difference is about one standard deviation, effectively unchanged since the first black-white comparisons 90 years ago. The second is that harbingers of a narrowing difference are starting to emerge. I cannot settle the argument here, but I can convey some sense of the uncertainty. The case for an unchanged black-white IQ difference is straightforward. If you take all the black-white differences on IQ tests from the first ones in World War I up to the present, there is no statistically significant downward trend. Of course the results vary, because tests vary in the precision with which they measure the general mental factor (g) and samples vary in their size and representativeness. But results continue to center around a black-white difference of about 1.0 to 1.1 standard deviations through the most recent data.39 The case for a reduction has two important recent results to work with. The first is from the 1997 re-norming of the Armed Forces Qualification Test (AFQT), which showed a black-white difference of .97 standard deviations.40 Since the typical difference on paper-and-pencil IQ tests like the AFQT has been about 1.10 standard deviations, the 1997 results represent noticeable improvement.41 The second positive result comes from the 2003 standardization sample for the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children (WISC-IV), which showed a difference of .78 standard deviations, as against the 1.0 difference that has been typical for individually administered IQ tests.42 One cannot draw strong conclusions from two data points. Those who interpret them as part of an unchanging overall pattern can cite another recent result, from the 2001 standardization of the Woodcock-Johnson intelligence test. In line with the conventional gap, it showed an overall black-white difference of 1.05 standard deviations and, for youths aged six to eighteen, a difference of .99 standard deviations.43 There is more to be said on both sides of this issue, but nothing conclusive.44 Until new data become available, you may take your choice. If you are a pessimist, the gap has been unchanged at about one standard deviation. If you are an optimist, the IQ gap has decreased by a few points, but it is still close to one standard deviation. The clear and substantial convergence that occurred in academic tests has at best been but dimly reflected in IQ scores, and at worst not reflected at all. Whether we are talking about academic achievement or about IQ, are the causes of the black-white difference environmental or genetic? Everyone agrees that environment plays a part. The controversy is about whether biology is also involved. It has been known for many years that the obvious environmental factors such as income, parental occupation, and schools explain only part of the absolute black-white difference and none of the relative difference. Black and white students from affluent neighborhoods are separated by as large a proportional gap as are blacks and whites from poor neighborhoods.45 Thus the most interesting recent studies of environmental causes have worked with cultural explanations instead of socioeconomic status.46 One example is Black American Students in an Affluent Suburb: A Study of Academic Disengagement (2003) by the Berkeley anthropologist John Ogbu, who went to Shaker Heights, Ohio, to explore why black students in an affluent suburb should lag behind their white peers.47 Another is Black Rednecks and White Liberals (2005) by Thomas Sowell, who makes the case that what we think of as the dysfunctional aspects of urban black culture are a legacy not of slavery but of Southern and rural white "cracker" culture.48 Both Ogbu and Sowell describe ingrained parental behaviors and student attitudes that must impede black academic performance. These cultural influences often cut across social classes. From a theoretical standpoint, the cultural explanations offer fresh ways of looking at the black-white difference at a time when the standard socioeconomic explanations have reached a dead end. From a practical standpoint, however, the cultural explanations point to a cause of the black-white difference that is as impervious to manipulation by social policy as causes rooted in biology. If there is to be a rapid improvement, some form of mass movement with powerful behavioral consequences would have to occur within the black community. Absent that, the best we can hope for is gradual cultural change that is likely to be measured in decades. This brings us to the state of knowledge about genetic explanations. "There is not much direct evidence on this point," said the American Psychological Association's task force dismissively, "but what little there is fails to support the genetic hypothesis."49 Actually, there is no direct evidence at all, just a wide variety of indirect evidence, almost all of which the task force chose to ignore.50 As it happens, a comprehensive survey of that evidence, and of the objections to it, appeared this past June in the journal Psychology, Public Policy, and Law. There, J. Philippe Rushton and Arthur Jensen co-authored a 60-page article entitled "Thirty Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability."51 It incorporates studies of East Asians as well as blacks and whites and concludes that the source of the black-white-Asian difference is 50- to 80-percent genetic. The same issue of the journal includes four commentaries, three of them written by prominent scholars who oppose the idea that any part of the black-white difference is genetic.52 Thus, in one place, you can examine the strongest arguments that each side in the debate can bring to bear. Rushton and Jensen base their conclusion on ten categories of evidence that are consistent with a model in which both environment and genes cause the black-white difference and inconsistent with a model that requires no genetic contribution.53 I will not try to review their argument here, or the critiques of it. All of the contributions can be found on the Internet, and can be understood by readers with a grasp of basic statistical concepts.54 For those who consider it important to know what percentage of the IQ difference is genetic, a methodology that would do the job is now available. In the United States, few people classified as black are actually of 100-percent African descent (the average American black is thought to be about 20-percent white).55 To the extent that genes play a role, IQ will vary by racial admixture. In the past, studies that have attempted to test this hypothesis have had no accurate way to measure the degree of admixture, and the results have been accordingly muddy.56 The recent advances in using genetic markers solves that problem. Take a large sample of racially diverse people, give them a good IQ test, and then use genetic markers to create a variable that no longer classifies people as "white" or "black," but along a continuum. Analyze the variation in IQ scores according to that continuum. The results would be close to dispositive.57 None of this is important for social policy, however, where the issue is not the source of the difference but its intractability. Much of the evidence reviewed by Rushton and Jensen bears on what we can expect about future changes in the black-white IQ difference. My own thinking on this issue is shaped by the relationship of the difference to a factor I have already mentioned-"g"-and to the developing evidence for g's biological basis. When you compare black and white mean scores on a battery of subtests, you do not find a uniform set of differences; nor do you find a random assortment. The size of the difference varies systematically by type of subtest. Asked to predict which subtests show the largest difference, most people will think first of ones that have the most cultural content and are the most sensitive to good schooling. But this natural expectation is wrong. Some of the largest differences are found on subtests that have little or no cultural content, such as ones based on abstract designs. As long ago as 1927, Charles Spearman, the pioneer psychometrician who discovered g, proposed a hypothesis to explain the pattern: the size of the black-white difference would be "most marked in just those [subtests] which are known to be saturated with g."58 In other words, Spearman conjectured that the black-white difference would be greatest on tests that were the purest measures of intelligence, as opposed to tests of knowledge or memory. A concrete example illustrates how Spearman's hypothesis works. Two items in the Wechsler and Stanford-Binet IQ tests are known as "forward digit span" and "backward digit span." In the forward version, the subject repeats a random sequence of one-digit numbers given by the examiner, starting with two digits and adding another with each iteration. The subject's score is the number of digits that he can repeat without error on two consecutive trials. Digits-backward works exactly the same way except that the digits must be repeated in the opposite order. Digits-backward is much more g-loaded than digits-forward. Try it yourself and you will see why. Digits-forward is a straightforward matter of short-term memory. Digits-backward makes your brain work much harder.59 The black-white difference in digits-backward is about twice as large as the difference in digits-forward.60 It is a clean example of an effect that resists cultural explanation. It cannot be explained by differential educational attainment, income, or any other socioeconomic factor. Parenting style is irrelevant. Reluctance to "act white" is irrelevant. Motivation is irrelevant. There is no way that any of these variables could systematically encourage black performance in digits-forward while depressing it in digits-backward in the same test at the same time with the same examiner in the same setting.61 In 1980, Arthur Jensen began a research program for testing Spearman's hypothesis. In his book The g Factor (1998), he summarized the results from seventeen independent sets of data, derived from 149 psychometric tests. They consistently supported Spearman's hypothesis.62 Subsequent work has added still more evidence.63 Debate continues about what the correlation between g-loadings and the size of the black-white difference means, but the core of Spearman's original conjecture, that a sizable correlation would be found to exist, has been confirmed.64 During the same years that Jensen was investigating Spearman's hypothesis, progress was also being made in understanding g. For decades, psychometricians had tried to make g go away. Confident that intelligence must be more complicated than a single factor, they strove to replace g with measures of uncorrelated mental skills. They thereby made valuable contributions to our understanding of intelligence, which really does manifest itself in different ways and with different profiles, but getting rid of g proved impossible. No matter how the data were analyzed, a single factor kept dominating the results.65 By the 1980's, the robustness and value of g as an explanatory construct were broadly accepted among pyschometricians, but little was known about its physiological basis.66 As of 2005, we know much more. It is now established that g is by far the most heritable component of IQ.67 A variety of studies have found correlations between g and physiological phenomena such as brain-evoked potentials, brain pH levels, brain glucose metabolism, nerve-conduction velocity, and reaction time.68 Most recently, it has been determined that a highly significant relationship exists between g and the volume of gray matter in specific areas of the frontal cortex, and that the magnitude of the volume is under tight genetic control.69 In short, we now know that g captures something in the biology of the brain. So Spearman's basic conjecture was correct-the size of the black-white difference and g-loadings are correlated-and g represents a biologically grounded and highly heritable cognitive resource. When those two observations are put together, a number of characteristics of the black-white difference become predictable, correspond with phenomena we have observed in data, and give us reason to think that not much will change in the years to come.70 One implication is that black-white convergence on test scores will be greatest on tests that are least g-loaded. Literacy is the obvious example: people with a wide range of IQ's can be taught to read competently, and it is the reading test of the NAEP in which convergence has reached its closest point (.55 standard deviations in the 1988 test). More broadly, the confirmation of Spearman's hypothesis explains why the convergence that has occurred on academic achievement tests has not been matched on IQ tests. A related implication is that the source of the black-white difference lies in skills that are hardest to change. Being able to repeat many digits backward has no value in itself. It points to a valuable underlying mental ability, in the same way that percentage of fast-twitch muscle fibers points to an underlying athletic ability. If you were to practice reciting digits backward for a few days, you could increase your score somewhat, just as training can improve your running speed somewhat. But in neither case will you have improved the underlying ability.71 As far as anyone knows, g itself cannot be coached. The third implication is that the "Flynn effect" will not close the black-white difference. I am referring here to the secular increase in IQ scores over time, brought to public attention by James Flynn.72 The Flynn effect has been taken as a reason for thinking that the black-white difference is temporary: if IQ scores are so malleable that they can rise steadily for several decades, why should not the black-white difference be malleable as well?73 But as the Flynn effect has been studied over the last decade, the evidence has grown, and now seems persuasive, that the increases in IQ scores do not represent significant increases in g.74 What the increases do represent-whether increases in specific mental skills or merely increased test sophistication-is still being debated. But if the black-white difference is concentrated in g and if the Flynn effect does not consist of increases in g, the Flynn effect will not do much to close the gap. A 2004 study by Dutch scholars tested this question directly. Examining five large databases, the authors concluded that "the nature of the Flynn effect is qualitatively different from the nature of black-white differences in the United States," and that "the implications of the Flynn effect for black-white differences appear small."75 These observations represent my reading of a body of evidence that is incomplete, and they will surely have to be modified as we learn more. But taking the story of the black-white IQ difference as a whole, I submit that we know two facts beyond much doubt. First, the conventional environmental explanation of the black-white difference is inadequate. Poverty, bad schools, and racism, which seem such obvious culprits, do not explain it. Insofar as the environment is the cause, it is not the sort of environment we know how to change, and we have tried every practical remedy that anyone has been able to think of. Second, regardless of one's reading of the competing arguments, we are left with an IQ difference that has, at best, narrowed by only a few points over the last century. I can find nothing in the history of this difference, or in what we have learned about its causes over the last ten years, to suggest that any faster change is in our future. IV Elites throughout the West are living a lie, basing the futures of their societies on the assumption that all groups of people are equal in all respects. Lie is a strong word, but justified. It is a lie because so many elite politicians who profess to believe it in public do not believe it in private. It is a lie because so many elite scholars choose to ignore what is already known and choose not to inquire into what they suspect. We enable ourselves to continue to live the lie by establishing a taboo against discussion of group differences. The taboo is not perfect-otherwise, I would not have been able to document this essay-but it is powerful. Witness how few of Harvard's faculty who understood the state of knowledge about sex differences were willing to speak out during the Summers affair. In the public-policy debate, witness the contorted ways in which even the opponents of policies like affirmative action frame their arguments so that no one can accuse them of saying that women are different from men or blacks from whites. Witness the unwillingness of the mainstream media to discuss group differences without assuring readers that the differences will disappear when the world becomes a better place. The taboo arises from an admirable idealism about human equality. If it did no harm, or if the harm it did were minor, there would be no need to write about it. But taboos have consequences. The nature of many of the consequences must be a matter of conjecture because people are so fearful of exploring them.76 Consider an observation furtively voiced by many who interact with civil servants: that government is riddled with people who have been promoted to their level of incompetence because of pressure to have a staff with the correct sex and ethnicity in the correct proportions and positions. Are these just anecdotes? Or should we be worrying about the effects of affirmative action on the quality of government services?77 It would be helpful to know the answers, but we will not so long as the taboo against talking about group difference prevails. How much damage has the taboo done to the education of children? Christina Hoff Sommers has argued that willed blindness to the different developmental patterns of boys and girls has led many educators to see boys as aberrational and girls as the norm, with pervasive damage to the way our elementary and secondary schools are run.78 Is she right? Few have been willing to pursue the issue lest they be required to talk about innate group differences. Similar questions can be asked about the damage done to medical care, whose practitioners have only recently begun to acknowledge the ways in which ethnic groups respond differently to certain drugs.79 How much damage has the taboo done to our understanding of America's social problems? The part played by sexism in creating the ratio of males to females on mathematics faculties is not the ratio we observe but what remains after adjustment for male-female differences in high-end mathematical ability. The part played by racism in creating different outcomes in black and white poverty, crime, and illegitimacy is not the raw disparity we observe but what remains after controlling for group characteristics. For some outcomes, sex or race differences nearly disappear after a proper analysis is done. For others, a large residual difference remains.80 In either case, open discussion of group differences would give us a better grasp on where to look for causes and solutions. What good can come of raising this divisive topic? The honest answer is that no one knows for sure. What we do know is that the taboo has crippled our ability to explore almost any topic that involves the different ways in which groups of people respond to the world around them-which means almost every political, social, or economic topic of any complexity. Thus my modest recommendation, requiring no change in laws or regulations, just a little more gumption. Let us start talking about group differences openly-all sorts of group differences, from the visuospatial skills of men and women to the vivaciousness of Italians and Scots. Let us talk about the nature of the manly versus the womanly virtues. About differences between Russians and Chinese that might affect their adoption of capitalism. About differences between Arabs and Europeans that might affect the assimilation of Arab immigrants into European democracies. About differences between the poor and non-poor that could inform policy for reducing poverty. Even to begin listing the topics that could be enriched by an inquiry into the nature of group differences is to reveal how stifled today's conversation is. Besides liberating that conversation, an open and undefensive discussion would puncture the irrational fear of the male-female and black-white differences I have surveyed here. We would be free to talk about other sexual and racial differences as well, many of which favor women and blacks, and none of which is large enough to frighten anyone who looks at them dispassionately. Talking about group differences does not require any of us to change our politics. For every implication that the Right might seize upon (affirmative-action quotas are ill-conceived), another gives fodder to the Left (innate group differences help rationalize compensatory redistribution by the state).81 But if we do not need to change our politics, talking about group differences obligates all of us to renew our commitment to the ideal of equality that Thomas Jefferson had in mind when he wrote as a self-evident truth that all men are created equal. Steven Pinker put that ideal in today's language in The Blank Slate, writing that "Equality is not the empirical claim that all groups of humans are interchangeable; it is the moral principle that individuals should not be judged or constrained by the average properties of their group."82 Nothing in this essay implies that this moral principle has already been realized or that we are powerless to make progress. In elementary and secondary education, many outcomes are tractable even if group differences in ability remain unchanged. Dropout rates, literacy, and numeracy are all tractable. School discipline, teacher performance, and the quality of the curriculum are tractable. Academic performance within a given IQ range is tractable. The existence of group differences need not and should not discourage attempts to improve schooling for millions of American children who are now getting bad educations. In university education and in the world of work, overall openness of opportunity has been transformed for the better over the last half-century. But the policies we now have in place are impeding, not facilitating, further progress. Creating double standards for physically demanding jobs so that women can qualify ensures that men in those jobs will never see women as their equals. In universities, affirmative action ensures that the black-white difference in IQ in the population at large is brought onto the campus and made visible to every student. The intentions of their designers notwithstanding, today's policies are perfectly fashioned to create separation, condescension, and resentment-and so they have done. The world need not be that way. Any university or employer that genuinely applied a single set of standards for hiring, firing, admitting, and promoting would find that performance across different groups really is distributed indistinguishably. But getting to that point nationwide will require us to jettison an apparatus of laws, regulations, and bureaucracies that has been 40 years in the making. That will not happen until the conversation has opened up. So let us take one step at a time. Let us stop being afraid of data that tell us a story we do not want to hear, stop the name-calling, stop the denial, and start facing reality. CHARLES MURRAY is the W.H. Brady Scholar in Freedom and Culture at the American Enterprise Institute. His previous contributions to COMMENTARY, available online, include "The Bell Curve and Its Critics" (May 1995, with a subsequent exchange in the August 1995 issue).
LaFéeC Posté 27 août 2005 Signaler Posté 27 août 2005 Si j'étais féministe intégriste j'aurais sauté au plafond, mais je ne suis pas féministe. J'ai tenté de répondre à un test QI une fois dans ma vie, et je n'ai pas réussi à répondre aux 3 premières questions, je ne me suis pas sentie débile pour autant, et je ne doute pas de mon intelligence. Je ne vois pas pourquoi les scientifiques omettraient de chercher les réponses à certaines questions, notamment celle qui nous interesse ici : "pourquoi y'a t'il très peu de femmes prix nobel ?" Si une des réponses possibles est "parce que les femmes ont un QI plus faible" alors quoi ? est ce un mal ? Est ce la fin du monde pour les femmes ? je ne le pense pas. L'accusation de "catégorisation" de populations ne me plait guère, pdt longtemps, il a été politiquement incorrect de s'interroger sur les vertus des médicaments sur les noirs. C'était mal d'imaginer que leur métabolisme était différent de celui des blancs. Or, il s'avère que nb de molécules sont inefficaces sur les populations négroides. Du coup, on commence à s'interesser à la meilleure manière de soigner les populations noires. Et au final c'est un grand pas pour eux : on va enfin chercher à les soigner au mieux, alors que jusque là on fermait les yeux sur leur différence. Ainsi, de savoir que les femmes ont, en moyenne, un QI inférieur à celui des hommes, permettrait à l'esprit curieux de se demander comment améliorer (et est ce possible) la moyenne féminine (par ex.) ou pourquoi le QI est plus faible (est ce parce que d'autres ressources sont plus développées ?), la féministe intégriste y verra une scandaleuse discrimination, j'y verrais pour ma part une information, information qui me permettra de tendre vers le mieux, pourquoi pas ?
labbekak Posté 27 août 2005 Signaler Posté 27 août 2005 Je pense que hommes et femmes sont simplement différents (je n'ai pas dit inférieurs ou supérieurs) et qu'il est tout à fait sans objet de vouloir les comparer sur bases de tests qui, à mon sens, ne prouvent déjà pas grand choses au départ. Tant qu'on y est, qu'on rajoute dans la comparaison les homosexuels pour voir si la raison de leur déviance ne se situe pas dans leur intelligence.
LaFéeC Posté 27 août 2005 Signaler Posté 27 août 2005 Je pense que hommes et femmes sont simplement différents (je n'ai pas dit inférieurs ou supérieurs) et qu'il est tout à fait sans objet de vouloir les comparer sur bases de tests qui, à mon sens, ne prouvent déjà pas grand choses au départ.Tant qu'on y est, qu'on rajoute dans la comparaison les homosexuels pour voir si la raison de leur déviance ne se situe pas dans leur intelligence. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Mais justement, un QI inférieur n'induit pas forcément une infériorité (je sais que je m'exprime mal sur ce coup, mais je trouve pas le mot), on dit juste le QI est inférieur, pas "l'individu est inférieur". Chacun interprete selon son propre background, l'intégriste comprendra "les femmes sont moins intelligentes que les hommes", je comprends, moi, "les femmes ont en moyenne un QI plus faible" sans que QI ne reflète l'intelligence globale d'un individu mais une certaine forme d'intelligence, celle qui peut etre mesurée (par ex.)
Fredo Posté 27 août 2005 Signaler Posté 27 août 2005 Tout à fait, LaféeC. Comme l'a dit Epictète : XLIVIl n'est pas logique de dire : « Je suis plus riche que toi, donc je vaux mieux que toi » ; « Je parle mieux que toi, donc je vaux mieux que toi. » Ce serait bien plus logique de dire : « Je suis plus riche que toi, donc ma fortune vaut mieux que la tienne » ; « Je parle mieux que toi, donc mon éloquence vaut mieux que la tienne. » Car tu n'es ni ta fortune ni ton éloquence.
antietat Posté 27 août 2005 Signaler Posté 27 août 2005 Un texte particulièrement intéressant de Charles Murray vient justement de paraître à ce sujet. Coïncidence !Ceux qui veulent aller au coeur de l'article peuvent directement commencer au point 1. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> J'attends toujours que tu veuilles bien me dire ou sont les inexactitudes de mes deux posts précédents. Pour être sûr de bien me faire comprendre je synthétise comme suit. Je suis pas contre les inégalités car ce serait nier la réalité. Les étalonnages des tests ne sont rien d'autres que le constat de ces inégalités. Par contre, si tu me dis que la notion de QI a un sens je te répond NON parce que : Ce n'est pas un quotient Cela ne mesure pas la totalité des activités intellectuelles. et on ne sait pas ce que cela mesure. (pour mémoire il y a plusieurs centaines de définitions différentes de l'intelligence parmi les spécialistes) Tu peux utiliser la notion d'étalonnage pas celle de QI. La notion de QI est à la psychologie ce que le PIB est à l'économie, la recherche d'un indicateur numérique susceptible de tout résumer. Et les adorateurs du QI sont à la psychologie ce que les comptables nationaux sont aux économistes autrichiens. Si une notion fausse comme celle ci est conservée c'est qu'elle sert à quelque chose. Et ce quelque chose c'est la nostalgie du sang bleu, enfin pouvoir affirmer sur une base biologique la primauté d'un individu ou d'un groupe sur d'autres groupes ou individus.
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