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Désolé de "flooder" la Taverne mais je pense que les tests que je propose ici sont différents de celui du fil "Nouveau test politique":

www.politicalcompass.org

Je tombe sur des résultats absolument aberrants:

Economic Left/Right: 5.63

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.05

Il y a aussi cet autre test:

www.moral-politics.com

Your Score

Your scored 1 on the Moral Order axis and -3.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Conservatism

2. Variation: Moderate Conservatism

3. Ideologies: Capital Republicanism

4. US Parties: Republican Party, Democratic Party

5. Presidents: Gerald Ford (95.06%)

6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (81.12%), George W. Bush (81.12%), Ralph Nader (63.22%)

Statistics

Of the 303473 people who took the test:

1. 0.6% had the same score as you.

2. 69.9% were above you on the chart.

3. 24.9% were below you on the chart.

4. 23% were to your right on the chart.

5. 71.2% were to your left on the chart.

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Pour PoliticalCompass, il ne faut pas s'inquiéter : les dictateurs sont en haut, et les libertaires sont en bas. C'est le diagramme de Nolan retourné (soumis à une symétrie d'axe vertical puis tourné de 225 degrés en sens direct, pour les géomètres qui me lisent), ce qui met les totalitaires en haut à gauche, la gauche en bas à gauche, les conservateurs en haut à droite et les libertariens en bas à droite. De mémoire, mes coordonnées sont environ 9,50 et -3.

Je te propose de refaire le test, en faisant très attention aux nombreuses propositions formulées de manière négative : c'est traitre.

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polical compass

Economic Left/Right: 4.25

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54

moral politics

Your scored -2 on the Moral Order axis and -6 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Liberalism

2. Variation: Economic Liberalism

3. Ideologies: Progressive NeoLiberalism

4. US Parties: No match.

5. Presidents: Bill Clinton (88.10%)

6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (81.78%), George W. Bush (68.75%), Ralph Nader (64.37%)

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Moral Politics :

Your scored -0.5 on the Moral Order axis and -6.5 on the Moral Rules axis. (Traduction : je suis tout en bas, juste à gauche de l'axe central)

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Liberalism

2. Variation: Economic Liberalism

3. Ideologies: Progressive NeoLiberalism

4. US Parties: No match.

5. Presidents: Ronald Reagan (88.73%)

6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (77.25%), George W. Bush (74.81%), Ralph Nader (58.90%)

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Moral Politics :

Your scored -0.5 on the Moral Order axis and -6.5 on the Moral Rules axis. (Traduction : je suis tout en bas, juste à gauche de l'axe central)

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Liberalism

2. Variation: Economic Liberalism

3. Ideologies: Progressive NeoLiberalism

4. US Parties: No match.

5. Presidents: Ronald Reagan (88.73%)

6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (77.25%), George W. Bush (74.81%), Ralph Nader (58.90%)

je trouve les idéologies décritent dans moralpolitics.com (tirés de wikipedia) très gauchistes fantaisistes.

Voici quelques exemples :

Progressive neoliberalism

Ultra-liberalism

libertarian capitalism

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tirés de wikipedia
gauchistes
fantaisistes

Tu te répètes, là. :icon_up:

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Your Score

Your scored -1 on the Moral Order axis and -7.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Liberalism

2. Variation: Economic Liberalism

3. Ideologies: Ultra Liberalism

4. US Parties: No match.

5. Presidents: Ronald Reagan (85.18%)

6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (74.14%), George W. Bush (71.27%), Ralph Nader (56.42%)

Statistics

Of the 303616 people who took the test:

1. 0.2% had the same score as you.

2. 95.9% were above you on the chart.

3. 1.2% were below you on the chart.

4. 40.8% were to your right on the chart.

5. 51.1% were to your left on the chart.

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Cool…

Moral Politics :

Your scored 0 on the Moral Order axis and -8 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

  1. System: Conservatism, Liberalism
  2. Variation: Economic Conservatism, Economic Liberalism
  3. Ideologies: Ultra Capitalism, Ultra Liberalism
  4. US Parties: No match.
  5. Presidents: Ronald Reagan (87.50%)
  6. 2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (74.23%), John Kerry (70.35%), Ralph Nader (52.20%)

Statistics

Of the 303625 people who took the test:

  1. 0.3% had the same score as you.
  2. 98.8% were above you on the chart.
  3. 0% were below you on the chart.
  4. 28.8% were to your right on the chart.
  5. 59.2% were to your left on the chart.

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Are you 'commies bastards'?

Not last time we checked. Quite the opposite actually. Our score is

0.5/-6.5. Half-way between Conservative and Progressive Neo-Liberalism.

We are die-hard capitalists. Sometimes people feel that we must be

progressives because of our reference to George Lakoff. We love his book and his theories but we don't share all his political opinions.

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Your political compass

Economic Left/Right: 6.75

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.51

Your Score

Your scored 0.5 on the Moral Order axis and -6 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Conservatism

Variation: Economic Conservatism

Ideologies: Conservative NeoLiberalism

US Parties: Republican Party

Presidents: Ronald Reagan (93.37%)

2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (79.63%), John Kerry (76.51%), Ralph Nader (57.78%)

Statistics

Of the 304991 people who took the test:

0.7% had the same score as you.

84.3% were above you on the chart.

4.1% were below you on the chart.

28.8% were to your right on the chart.

59.2% were to your left on the chart.

Invité jabial
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Political compass :

Economic left/rigt : 5.88

Libertarian/authoritarian : -3.03

J'ai mis moins de strongly qu'à une époque… Mais le sens est le même.

Moral politics (que je n'avais pas encore fait) :

Your Score

Your scored 0.5 on the Moral Order axis and -7 on the Moral Rules axis.

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Conservatism

2. Variation: Economic Conservatism

3. Ideologies: Ultra Capitalism, Conservative NeoLiberalism

4. US Parties: Republican Party

5. Presidents: Ronald Reagan (92.03%)

6. 2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (78.24%), John Kerry (73.03%), Ralph Nader (54.45%)

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J'ai mis moins de strongly qu'à une époque… Mais le sens est le même.

Tu vieillis…

Posté

Je connaissais Political Compass, c'était le seul test qui faisait l'unanimité sur un autre forum (non politique, mais avec une section où on discutait souvent politique).

Economic Left/Right: 6.63

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.69

Le Moral politics test m'a bluffé. Tout du long je me suis dit que les questions étaient idiotes, et puis voilà qu'il me case pile-poil à un endroit qui semble me convenir. Du coup je ne sais pas quoi en penser.

Your Score

Your scored -0.5 on the Moral Order axis and -6.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Liberalism

2. Variation: Economic Liberalism

3. Ideologies: Progressive NeoLiberalism

4. US Parties: No match.

5. Presidents: Ronald Reagan (88.73%)

6. 2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (77.25%), George W. Bush (74.81%), Ralph Nader (58.90%)

Statistics

Of the 305957 people who took the test:

1. 0.7% had the same score as you.

2. 84.3% were above you on the chart.

3. 4.1% were below you on the chart.

4. 28.8% were to your right on the chart.

5. 59.2% were to your left on the chart.

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Your Score

Your scored 0.5 on the Moral Order axis and -7 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Conservatism

2. Variation: Economic Conservatism

3. Ideologies: Ultra Capitalism, Conservative NeoLiberalism

4. US Parties: Republican Party

5. Presidents: Ronald Reagan (92.03%)

6. 2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (78.24%), John Kerry (73.03%), Ralph Nader (54.45%)

Statistics

Of the 305972 people who took the test:

1. 0.5% had the same score as you.

2. 95.9% were above you on the chart.

3. 1.2% were below you on the chart.

4. 28.8% were to your right on the chart.

5. 59.2% were to your left on the chart.

A noter que j'ai indique que deux questions étaient "confusing", soit la 4 et la 8.

[EDIT] à noter que mon score est identique à celui de Jabial…

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A noter que j'ai indique que deux questions étaient "confusing", soit la 4 et la 8.

Je trouve que la 2 et la 3 aussi, parce que leur explication de ces questions n'est pas nécessairement celle à laquelle on pense en premier.

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Ca me semble correct.

Your Score

Your scored 3.5 on the Moral Order axis and -7.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

1. System: Conservatism

2. Variation: Economic Conservatism

3. Ideologies: Ultra Capitalism

4. US Parties: No match.

5. Presidents: Ronald Reagan (90.62%)

6. 2004 Election Candidates: George W. Bush (87.12%), John Kerry (62.37%), Ralph Nader (43.66%)

Statistics

Of the 306016 people who took the test:

1. 0.3% had the same score as you.

2. 95.9% were above you on the chart.

3. 1.2% were below you on the chart.

4. 11.2% were to your right on the chart.

5. 85.4% were to your left on the chart.

Invité jabial
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[EDIT] à noter que mon score est identique à celui de Jabial…

:icon_up:

A noter qu'on indique comme mon candidat préféré celui pour qui je n'aurais voté pour rien au monde.

Bush n'aurait pas été mon "pire candidat", mais avec un candidat libertarien disponible, les chances que je vote pour qui que ce soit d'autre auraient été égales à zéro, effectivement. On notera au passage que Bush est aussi le candidat le plus anti-avortement.

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Bush n'aurait pas été mon "pire candidat", mais avec un candidat libertarien disponible, les chances que je vote pour qui que ce soit d'autre auraient été égales à zéro, effectivement. On notera au passage que Bush est aussi le candidat le plus anti-avortement.

Ce n'est qu'une posture car il le plus eugéniste en autorisant les travaux sur les cellules souches.

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Your Score

Your scored -0.5 on the Moral Order axis and -7.5 on the Moral Rules axis.

Matches

The following items best match your score:

System: Liberalism

Variation: Economic Liberalism

Ideologies: Ultra Liberalism

US Parties: No match.

Presidents: Ronald Reagan (87.12%)

2004 Election Candidates: John Kerry (73.30%), George W. Bush (73.30%), Ralph Nader (55.26%)

Statistics

Of the 307097 people who took the test:

0.5% had the same score as you.

95.9% were above you on the chart.

1.2% were below you on the chart.

28.8% were to your right on the chart.

59.2% were to your left on the chart.

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Un autre test, toujours très américain dans la forme :

http://www.selectsmart.com/FREE/select.php?client=no

# Your Results: Your prediction for your #1 result: Burkean (liberal) Conservative. Does that match your actual #1 result below?

# Your Results

The list below is modified by your input. Note: The selector author alone determined the questions and scoring of these results.

Rank

#1 Liberal

#2 Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)

#3 Liberal Nationalist

#4 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)

#5 American "Conservative"

#6 Burkean (liberal) Conservative

#7 Social-Liberal

#8 Christian Democratic

#9 Fascist

#10 National Socialist

#11 American "Liberal"

#12 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)

#13 Social Democratic

#14 Soviet "Communist"

#15 Anarcho-Communist

#16 Christian Socialist

#17 Marxist

#18 Liberal Socialist

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#1 Liberal

#2 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)

#3 Social-Liberal

#4 American "Liberal"

#5 Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)

#6 Social Democratic

#7 American "Conservative"

#8 Anarcho-Communist

#9 Liberal Socialist

#10 Burkean (liberal) Conservative

#11 Liberal Nationalist

#12 Christian Democratic

#13 Marxist

#14 Soviet "Communist"

#15 Christian Socialist

#16 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)

#17 Fascist

#18 National Socialist

Sur le même site on a un test tout aussi interessant.

Je trouve le résultat assez précis :

1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)

2. Ron Paul (60%)

3. Kent McManigal (57%)

4. Chuck Hagel (51%)

5. Christopher Dodd (46%)

6. Dennis Kucinich (45%)

7. Newt Gingrich (44%)

8. Barack Obama (43%)

9. Wesley Clark (43%)

10. Al Gore (43%)

11. John McCain (40%)

12. Duncan Hunter (40%)

13. Rudolph Giuliani (40%)

14. Joseph Biden (39%)

15. Sam Brownback (39%)

16. Fred Thompson (38%)

17. Tom Tancredo (37%)

18. Bill Richardson (36%)

19. Hillary Clinton (36%)

20. Mitt Romney (35%)

21. Tommy Thompson (31%)

22. John Edwards (31%)

23. Jim Gilmore (30%)

24. Mike Huckabee (26%)

25. Mike Gravel (24%)

26. Elaine Brown (14%)

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Sur le même site on a un test tout aussi interessant.

Je trouve le résultat assez précis :

Voilà les miens :

Your Results:

1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)

2. Kent McManigal (81%)

3. John McCain (63%)

4. Ron Paul (63%)

5. Tom Tancredo (60%)

6. Mitt Romney (60%)

7. Chuck Hagel (58%)

8. Rudolph Giuliani (58%)

9. Newt Gingrich (56%)

10. Duncan Hunter (53%)

11. Sam Brownback (52%)

12. Fred Thompson (51%)

13. Christopher Dodd (45%)

14. Dennis Kucinich (44%)

15. Hillary Clinton (39%)

16. Tommy Thompson (39%)

17. Al Gore (38%)

18. Barack Obama (38%)

19. Bill Richardson (37%)

20. Mike Huckabee (37%)

21. Joseph Biden (36%)

22. Jim Gilmore (34%)

23. Wesley Clark (33%)

24. John Edwards (31%)

25. Elaine Brown (13%)

26. Mike Gravel (6%)

Je me disais bien que je trouvais McCain au dessus du lot !

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J'ai regardé http://selectsmart.com/president/2008/comparethem.html ; à part le Libertarian et Ron Paul, c'est vraiment pas terrible.

1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)

2. Kent McManigal (89%)

3. Ron Paul (74%)

4. Dennis Kucinich (56%)

5. Chuck Hagel (54%)

6. Barack Obama (51%)

Bizarement McCain est plutôt bas pour moi, pourtant il me semblait bien avoir spécifié mes priorités. Me foutre des gens pour l'Universal Health Care avant, fallait le faire !

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Your Results:

Your prediction for your #1 result: Liberal. Does that match your actual #1 result below?

Your Results The list below is modified by your input. Note: The selector author alone determined the questions and scoring of these results.

#1 Liberal

#2 Social-Liberal

#3 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)

#4 American "Liberal"

#5 Social Democratic

#6 Anarcho-Communist

#7 Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)

#8 Burkean (liberal) Conservative

#9 Liberal Socialist

#10 American "Conservative"

#11 Liberal Nationalist

#12 Christian Democratic

#13 Marxist

#14 Soviet "Communist"

#15 Christian Socialist

#16 Fascist

#17 National Socialist

#18 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)

  • 1 year later...
Posté

Ah tiens je l'avais pas fait celui la…

Your scored 2 on Moral Order and -7.5 on Moral Rules.

1% are close to you.

0% are more conservative (!)

77% are more socialist. (C'est tout ?, ben merde alors)

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1. Theoretical Ideal Candidate (100%)

2. Kent McManigal (campaign suspended) (80%) Information link

3. Ron Paul (concedes nomination not possible) (75%) Information link

4. Bob Barr (72%) Information link

5. Alan Keyes (withdrawn) (63%) Information link

6. Wayne Allyn Root (is now Bob Barr's running mate) (63%) Information link

7. Newt Gingrich (says he will not run) (61%) Information link

8. Chuck Hagel (not running) (59%) Information link

9. John McCain (57%) Information link

10. Sam Brownback (withdrawn, endorsed McCain) (55%) Information link

11. Fred Thompson (withdrawn) (54%) Information link

12. Rudolph Giuliani (withdrawn, endorsed McCain) (53%) Information link

13. Tom Tancredo (withdrawn, endorsed Romney) (53%) Information link

14. Stephen Colbert (campaign halted) (52%) Information link

15. Mitt Romney (withdrawn, endorsed McCain) (52%) Information link

16. Christopher Dodd (endorsed Obama) (51%) Information link

17. Barack Obama (51%) Information link

18. Bill Richardson (withdrawn, endorsed Obama) (50%) Information link

19. Duncan Hunter (withdrawn, endorsed Huckabee) (50%) Information link

20. Michael Bloomberg (says he will not run) (46%) Information link

21. Dennis Kucinich (withdrawn) (42%) Information link

22. Al Gore (not announced) (42%) Information link

23. Hillary Clinton (defeated, endorsed Obama) (41%) Information link

24. Mike Huckabee (withdrawn) (39%) Information link

25. John Edwards (withdrawn) (38%) Information link

26. Jim Gilmore (withdrawn) (38%) Information link

27. Wesley Clark (not running, endorsed Clinton) (37%) Information link

28. Ralph Nader (36%) Information link

29. Joseph Biden (withdrawn) (36%) Information link

30. Mike Gravel (withdrawn) (35%) Information link

31. Tommy Thompson (withdrawn, endorsed Giuliani) (32%) Information link

32. Cynthia McKinney (29%) Information link

33. Elaine Brown (withdrawn) (16%) Information link

Posté

My #1 is: Liberal

My #2 is: Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)

My #3 is: Social-Liberal

My #4 is: Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)

My #5 is: American ''Liberal''

My #6 is: Social Democratic

My #7 is: American ''Conservative''

My #8 is: Liberal Nationalist

My #9 is: Anarcho-Communist

My #10 is: Burkean (liberal) Conservative

My #11 is: Liberal Socialist

My #12 is: Christian Democratic

My #13 is: Marxist

My #14 is: Soviet ''Communist''

My #15 is: Christian Socialist

My #16 is: National Socialist

My #17 is: Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)

My #18 is: Fascist

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