Qui après Ron Paul

[condorcet]

Les sources statistiques :http://www.census.gov/prod/2012pubs/acs-19.pdf

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En tout cas Rand Paul essaye justement de convaincre les minorités sur certains points (charter school, drogues, etc.) : http://nationalinterest.org/commentary/watch-out-rand-paul-9506

 

 

[Lonely Boy]

Article du Monde sur Rand Paul.

 

http://www.lemonde.fr/ameriques/article/2014/03/10/rand-paul-prepare-sa-candidature-a-l-election-de-2016_4380181_3222.html

[Kosher]

Tenez, il m'a bien fait marrer cet article sur ce discours de la CPAC, donc je me permets de le mettre ici : RAND PAUL: DID AN OLD PREJUDICE REAR ITS HEAD IN HIS CPAC SPEECH?

[Tramp]

  Le 10/03/2014 à 14:53, Lonely Boy a dit :

Article du Monde sur Rand Paul.

 

http://www.lemonde.fr/ameriques/article/2014/03/10/rand-paul-prepare-sa-candidature-a-l-election-de-2016_4380181_3222.html

 

 

Si les Républicains choisissent Christie c'est vraiment des idiots.

[the_student]

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Le sénateur Rand Paul, qui se définit comme républicain et libertaire

 

[Hayek's plosive]

  Le 10/03/2014 à 18:24, the_student a dit :

 

Le pire étant qu'on peut s'estimer heureux, ces débiles de l'immonde auraient pu le qualifier de "néo-conservateur", "de la droite dure", "extreme".

[Tramp]

ultraconservateur.

[the_student]

Non, si ils auraient dit cela, ça impliquerait que le camp du mal est contre la surveillance des citoyens, donc le "libertaire" a été mis consciemment pour brouiller les pistes.

[Arturus]

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Kentucky legislators have passed a bill that would allow politicians to run for two offices at once, which would allow Sen. Rand Paul to run for president while still trying to hang on to his Senate seat.

http://reason.com/blog/2014/03/19/ukraine-pulling-troops-from-crimea-homel

 

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Rand Paul's Youth Movement

 

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Rand Paul is the most intriguing -- and for Democrats, perhaps the most frightening -- figure in today's Republican Party. The Kentucky senator, who is more than flirting with a 2016 presidential run, is making a smart play for the millennial generation that was key to President Obama's twin victories and that his own party has convincingly repelled.
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More important, listen to the substance, and it is difficult to detect much Republican in Paul's remarks. Indeed, his cross-brand pitch was explicit, and exquisitely attuned to the you're-not-the-boss-of-me ethos of the younger generation. "Now you may be a Republican or a Democrat or a Libertarian," Paul began his speech. "I'm not here to tell you what to be."

 

 

[Arturus]

Rand Paul is "Divergent" and So Must be Stopped!
Why are liberals and conservatives freaking out over Rand Paul's popularity? Because he's not one of them.
Nick Gillespie | March 30, 2014

[Tramp]

C'est une rockstar d'après le Washington Post.

[Arturus]

If Rand Paul Has Hawks Nervous He's Doing Something Right
The Kentucky senator wants a less aggressive foreign policy, and so do most Americans
Matthew Feeney | April 4, 2014

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Among many in the chattering class, Sen. Rand Paul is the GOP frontrunner for president. He’s young. He’s interesting. He’s different. In other words, he’s everything that the last GOP nominee for president wasn’t. That said, the real test of a frontrunner is the ability to stand the test of time and to wear well over the course of a long process. Scratch below the surface of Paul’s appeal, and you can see many ways in which he’ll have difficultly standing the test of time.

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I get why the media loves covering Rand Paul. He’s actively challenging GOP orthodoxy. He likes talking to reporters. He’s multi-dimensional. But, that doesn’t automatically translate into “frontrunner” status. He has some significant hurdles he’ll need to climb before then. He’s like a house with instant curb appeal, but we don’t know if the house is sturdy until we start poking around at the infrastructure. At the end of the day, Rand Paul's biggest challenge won't be convincing people he can expand the base of the party. It will be in convincing the traditional and establishment Republican base of the party that he is truly presidential material.

Don't Call Rand Paul The Frontrunner

[condorcet]

Je trouve l'optimisme vis à vis de Rand Paul très surestimé, d'une part il aura du mal à avoir le support de l'establishment républicain et d'autre part il risque de subir des revers très sévère dans les états clés à fort électorat indépendant.

 

Actuellement l'équation du parti républicain est critique car il lui faut reconquérir l'électorat des états clés sans perdre le support de sa base.

 

Les deux éléments que la parti républicain doit revoir : politique étrangère et politique migratoire.

[Stephdumas]

En effet, un autre point est si les contribueurs de son père Ron, pourrait-il faire de l'ombre sur Rand?

http://reason.com/blog/2014/04/01/are-ron-pauls-fundraisers-a-shadowy-thre

 

Un peu hors-sujet, les RINO essaient de mettre Jeb Bush comme candidat pour 2016 et à lire les réactions sur les sites American Thinker et Breitbart sur sa récente déclaration http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/04/jeb_bush_some_illegal_immigration_an_act_of_love.html

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/04/06/Jeb-Bush-Crossing-The-Border-Illegally-Is-An-Act-Of-Love

 

 

[Kosher]

Jeb Bush n'obtiendra pas une bonne écoute s'il est choisi par les républicains qui pensent que la base du parti est le problème de celui-ci.

Jeb Bush's real 2016 Challenge

[condorcet]

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Unfortunately, there are too many Republicans who, honing their knives and lengthening their lists of unforgivable heresies, seem to derive more satisfaction from burning Republicans at the stake than from defeating Democrats. And there are too many other Republicans who think their task is to save the party from its base of principled activists.

 

 

C'est la citation clé de l'article.

[Stephdumas]

  Le 07/04/2014 à 16:24, condorcet a dit :

C'est la citation clé de l'article.

 

Parfois, je me demande si des Démocrates ont infiltré le GOP pour qu'ils choissisent des candidats plus "mous"?

[Tramp]

C'est le bipartisme. 

[Kosher]

Un délicat numéro d'équilibre :

Tea-Party Favorite Rand Paul Aims to Woo GOP Stalwarts for 2016 Bid

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Republicans can lose if they nominate bad candidates, no matter what wing of the party they come from.

The GOP’s Intra-Party Primary Wars

[Arturus]

Will Rand Paul Be Able To Deal With Neocon Money if He Runs in 2016?
Matthew Feeney|Apr. 14, 2014

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Rand Paul for President
Because what the GOP needs is a humbling landslide defeat.

Wall Street Journal

[condorcet]

ça sent effectivement l'élection pour la troisième fois d'un démocrate, car la course à la pureté idéologique si elle soude les militants républicains, aliène l'électorat indépendant des swing states...

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Rand Paul and Wealthy Libertarians Connect as He Weighs Running

 

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“I’m impressed with him,” said David Boaz, executive vice president of the Cato Institute. “I wish he was better on the gay marriage issue, and I’m a little concerned with his position on immigration. But I think when you combine his positions on economic issues with his views on foreign interventionism, and the surveillance state, you have a much better libertarian profile than I see in any other leading politician.”

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“Rand Paul,” Ms. Levin said, “is going to make it O.K. for conservatives to believe in the legalization of marijuana.”

 

Rand Paul’s Hard Road

 

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Paul is unlikely to persuade a majority of Republican primary voters, let alone a majority of general election voters, to identify comprehensively with his style of libertarianism. So what he needs to do is persuade voters to identify with a particular ingredient in the libertarian cocktail, a particular element in his persona, and let that narrower identification dictate their vote.

 

 

Ready for Rand?

 

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Rand Paul’s admirers, and more than a few of his enemies, believe the country is having a “libertarian moment”—from Tea Partiers in Topeka to Silicon Valley techno-separatists who dream of going Galt. We’ve had these moments before, but each time they come and go without the elevation of a libertarian to high office or the advancement of libertarian ideas. There’s a reason for that, and Sen. Rand Paul is just learning why now.

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If the fair-weather fiscal conservatives don’t like Rand Paul, the phony social liberals are going to loathe him. Here’s where the English language fails us: “Liberal” and “libertarian” come from the same linguistic root, meaning “liberty,” and many libertarians will describe themselves among friends as “classical liberals”—political heirs to the Whigs and the Manchester free-traders. But “socially liberal” and “socially libertarian” today mean almost precisely opposite things. If there is one thing our “social liberals” hate, it is liberty. In their view, you’re free to do as they please.

 

[Kosher]

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[the_student]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8TmPtFij-B0

[ModernGuy]

Moi je parie sur Raul Pan ou Ryand Poul. Un truc comme ça.

[Melkion]

Justin Amash's support for free enterprise earns enmity of Big Business

 

Amash’s Likely Primary Win Will Vindicate Libertarian Politics

 

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If current polling is any indication, liberty-friendly Rep. Justin Amash will coast to victory over his establishment-supported challenger in the Michigan Republican primary next week. An Amash victory would be a win for libertarian candidates everywhere, and a clear sign that independent and conservative voters prefer the limited government message to the pro-war, pro-corporate platitudes of Republican Party leadership.

 

Quelques nouvelles du prometteur Justin Amash, moins médiatique que Rand Paul.