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http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/04/01/re…esidential-run/

Bob Barr Weighing Presidential Run

Former Republican Georgia Rep. Bob Barr is considering a run for president on the Libertarian Party ticket.

Barr told FOX News on Tuesday that he should know in the next few days whether he is going to go for it.

If he does decide to make an announcement in the next few days, Barr said it “would not be in either Washington or Atlanta.“

Another source todl FOX News that the announcement should happen this weekend, probably on April 5. That is the day Barr is scheduled to be the keynote speaker at the Heartland Libertarian Conference in Kansas City, Mo.

Barr, who joined the Libertarian Party after leaving Congress in 2003, is looking to attract conservatives who are unhappy with the choice of John McCain as the expected Republican presidential nominee. McCain and Barr are at odds primarily over the role of U.S troops in Iraq, although both agree that tough interrogation methods should not be permitted.

FITNews, who was first to report the possible presidential bid, wrote that Barr will receive the endorsement of Texas Republican Rep. Ron Paul, a GOP presidential candidate who is still technically in the race but has not suggested he would throw his support to McCain. McCain and Paul, who ran on the Libertarian Party presidential ticket in 1988, also are at odds primarily over the role of U.S. troops in Iraq.

Barr, who represented Georgia’s 7th Congressional District in the U.S. House from 1995-2003 and served as a House manager during impeachment proceedings against former President Bill Clinton, told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution last week that he identifies closely with Paul’s outlook.

“Ron Paul tapped into a great deal of that dissatisfaction and that awareness. Unfortunately, working through the Republican party structure, it became impossible for him to really move forward with his movement. But we have to have ….a rallying point out there to harness that energy, that freedom in this election cycle,” he said.

Sinon, il y a un truc que j'ai du mal à comprendre. Dans un article qu'il a écrit sur son site, Raimondo a l'air de considérer que cette candidature apporte un espoir considérable.

Ceci dit, il me semble que les deux derniers candidats libertariens (enfin, que le Parti Libertarien avait proposés plutôt…) étaient également plus que potables. Je me trompe?

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Reuters - 13/05/08

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Un nouveau candidat à la Maison blanche, le Libertarien Bob Barr

Par Andy Sullivan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - L'ancien représentant républicain Bob Barr a annoncé lundi qu'il se présentait à l'élection présidentielle américaine comme candidat du Parti libertarien, ce qui pourrait priver le républicain John McCain d'un certain nombre de voix.

Barr a affirmé que ni le sénateur de l'Arizona, ni le favori démocrate Barack Obama n'agiraient pour remettre au pas un gouvernement devenu selon lui trop puissant après les attentats du 11 septembre 2001.

"Un vote pour le statu quo (…) est véritablement un vote gâché car il n'aura aucun impact", a-t-il dit.

Lorsqu'il représentait la Géorgie au Congrès de 1995 à 2003, Barr s'est révélé un conservateur pur et dur et a été l'un des chefs de file de la procédure de destitution lancée contre l'ancien président Bill Clinton.

Il a toutefois rompu les ponts avec l'administration Bush ces dernières années à cause, notamment, de son programme de surveillance.

La candidature de Barr n'arrange pas les affaires de McCain qui a des difficultés à rassembler sur son nom l'ensemble de l'électorat conservateur.

Environ un quart des électeurs qui ont participé aux consultations républicaines la semaine dernière dans l'Indiana et en Caroline du Nord ont voté pour un autre candidat que McCain.

Le candidat républicain Ron Paul, proche des Libertariens, n'a par ailleurs toujours pas annoncé son retrait officiel de la course à l'investiture républicaine bien que McCain ait depuis longtemps obtenu le nombre de délégués requis pour être désigné par le parti de l'éléphant.

Barr a déclaré que plusieurs membres de son ancien parti avaient tenté de le convaincre de ne pas se présenter.

Il doit encore être désigné par le Parti libertarien qui choisira officiellement son candidat lors de sa convention à Denver du 22 au 26 mai.

Version française Gwénaelle Barzic

h16

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Il est à noter que le héros du dessin animé Indestructibles (Pixar) s'appelle Bob Parr (presque pareil).

Nick de Cusa

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C'est dans le journal en Belgique.

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http://www.7sur7.be/7s7/fr/1505/Monde/arti…n-Blanche.dhtml

Un nouveau candidat dans la course à la Maison Blanche

L'ancien parlementaire républicain de Géorgie (sud-est) Bob Barr a annoncé lundi son intention de briguer le poste de président des Etats-Unis comme candidat du parti libertarien.

"Mon nom est Bob Barr et je suis candidat à la présidence des Etats-Unis", a dit l'ancien parlementaire, âgé de 59 ans, au cours d'une conférence de presse. Il a plaidé pour une réduction drastique des dépenses fédérales et accusé le candidat républicain John McCain de ne pas être un "vrai conservateur". Il a également dénoncé les récents propos de Hillary Clinton affirmant que les Etats-Unis devraient "anéantir" l'Iran si Téhéran attaquait Israël. Il a souhaité que l'Etat ne finance plus la scolarité des enfants d'immigrés illégaux et la fermeture des bases militaires américaines à l'étranger.

Le parti libertarien doit officiellement désigner son candidat à la présidence le 22 mai. L'ancien candidat à l'investiture démocrate Mike Gravel est également sur les rangs, mais M. Barr fait figure de favori pour remporter l'investiture des libertariens. Le parti libertarien, fondé en 1971, plaide pour une intervention minimale de l'Etat dans les affaires publiques et la vie des citoyens. (belga)

13/05/08 08h35

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Cadau pour Roni :

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Ton nouvel avatar.

De rien, c'est tout naturel.

Roniberal

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http://www.economist.com/world/na/displays…ory_id=11455827

Raising the Barr

May 29th 2008

From The Economist print edition

Angry libertarians could be a problem for John McCain in November

ON MAY 25th a dysfunctional minor party picked a grumpy ex-Republican as its presidential candidate. This may be just another quirk in the quirky history of the Libertarian Party. But it just might be something more than this: a further sign that the Republican coalition is splintering under John McCain's feet.

The new Libertarian champion, Bob Barr, a former four-term Georgia congressman, is most famous for his poor judgment and sour temper. He led the fight to defang anti-terrorism legislation after the Oklahoma City bombing (among his achievements: preventing the government from designating foreign groups as terrorists and denying their members visas to enter the country). He championed social-conservative causes such as the Defence of Marriage Act, which he drafted, and the impeachment of Bill Clinton. His moralistic fervour faltered only when it came to his own conduct: twice divorced, he was once photographed licking whipped cream off the breasts of a particularly buxom woman. He says he was raising money for leukaemia research. (Well, he would, wouldn't he?)

The Libertarian Party is one of the perennial jokes of American politics. Barry Goldwater, a party hero, once argued that “extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice”. Many Libertarians have interpreted that as meaning that extremism in defence of liberty is a positive virtue: one of the liveliest debates in the party is whether all drugs should be legalised, and all federal taxes abolished, next Monday or next Tuesday. The party's best presidential performance was back in 1980 when Edward Clark won 921,128 votes, or 1.1% of the electorate. Most Libertarian candidates have hovered around just 400,000 votes. The party is also badly divided between what might be called its Ruby Ridge wing and its Reefer Madness wing. The Ruby Ridge wing, which has still not recovered from the terrible day when the FBI shot several survivalists at Ruby Ridge in Idaho, believes that freedom comes from the barrel of a gun. The Reefer Madness wing is more interested in keeping the government's hands off its spliffs.

Mr Barr's candidacy is not likely to heal this division. The Georgian has a solid record on guns—he once accidentally discharged an antique pistol at a gun show—but he is much dodgier on other Libertarian shibboleths. He joined the party in 2006 only after being redistricted out of his congressional nest. He once supported both the Patriot Act and the “war on drugs”, though he is now repentant. He won the party's nomination only after six ballots and five hours of voting.

Yet the Republicans would be unwise to write him off as irrelevant: instead, they would do well to consider the reasons for the enduring success of Ron Paul, a Republican who shares many of the Libertarians' views. His presidential campaign has been one of the wonders of this election cycle, powered by hyper-motivated supporters and an endless supply of small donations. Mr Paul won 24% of the Republican vote in the recent Idaho primary, despite the fact that Mr McCain has the nomination locked up. His book, “The Revolution: A Manifesto”, leapt to the top of the New York Times's bestseller list.

The libertarian pool also contains more fish than you might think. Polls suggest that 10-20% of the electorate are willing to define themselves as “libertarians” in the sense that, like this newspaper, they are “conservative” on economics and “liberal” on social issues. These soft libertarians have been strikingly willing to break party ranks, whether to support John Anderson in 1980 or Ross Perot in 1992 and 1996.

Libertarian-leaning Republicans are also hog-wrestling mad about what has become of their party under George Bush. Mr Bush has presided over the fastest growth in federal spending since the Great Society in the 1960s. He put the Republican seal of approval on the biggest intrusion of federal power into the classroom in history (No Child Left Behind), the most expensive public-works programme ever (the 2005 highway bill) and the largest new entitlement programme since the creation of Medicare and Medicaid (the prescription-drug benefit). He launched an open-ended “war on terror”. He rode roughshod over states' rights on issues such as assisted suicide. And he has expanded the government's power to eavesdrop on its citizens.

Spot the difference

Mr McCain is not Mr Bush. He has an honourable record as a fiscal conservative (he opposed the prescription-drug benefit, for example). He is Washington's leading campaigner against pork. He is a principled federalist on issues like gay marriage. But there is plenty in his record to upset small-government conservatives. He likes to think of himself as a latter-day Teddy Roosevelt blowing the trumpet of “national greatness conservatism”. He broke the conservative covenant by supporting campaign-finance reform. His defence of the Iraq war may also cost him votes from small-government conservatives.

Mr Barr and the Libertarian Party, as well as Mr Paul, are both imperfect vehicles for all this pent-up anger. But they are vehicles nonetheless. Libertarians claim that they will put their candidate on the ballot in 48 states, as they did in 2004. They have already managed 28. Mr Barr claims that (admittedly sparse) polls give him 6-8% of the electorate. He could do particularly well in his native Georgia and the libertarian-leaning West. That could hurt Mr McCain badly in states like Colorado and Nevada, which he needs to hold on to.

The fact that Mr Barr's running mate, Wayne Allyn Root, is the author of a self-help book entitled “The Joy of Failure!” takes some of the air out of this speculation. But it would be wrong to underestimate how angry many small-government Republicans are with Mr Bush. Ronald Reagan once remarked that he did not leave the Democratic Party: the Democratic Party left him. That is what many libertarian sorts now feel about the Republicans.

Vive Bob Barr!

Bastiat

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Il est à noter que le héros du dessin animé Indestructibles (Pixar) s'appelle Bob Parr (presque pareil).

Non non, c'est bien ça Bob Barre candidat à la présidentielle.

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Pas de doutes.

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J'avais pas vu ce sujet ouvert (je suis désolé)

Il est déjà passé sur le show de Glenn Beck x2 (Headline news, rediffusé sur CNN).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=septiIsbRJw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Mbi3JVaTdw part1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHoF6lYtnRo part2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1yuJboCpo8 part3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI-TrTXS8io part4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBMirWOR3JY part5

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VETUXKhzwjU part6

Et sur le Colbert Report

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eHsSlq9Qkg

Et interview par Borat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icnl3A-8t-k

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J'avais pas vu ce sujet ouvert (je suis désolé)

Pas de problème. Dans la mesure où tu as tout recopié ici, l'autre sujet a été nettoyé.

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Nick de Cusa

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Encore et toujours l'Idaho qui s'illustre et un article encourageant de la part d'un journal aussi lu que USA today:
Big government frustrates Idaho, fuels Libertarian interest

By Karl Puckett, USA TODAY

MOSCOW, Idaho — Dylon Starry, a senior at Idaho State University here, used to be a Republican, but on Nov. 4, he'll vote for Bob Barr, the Libertarian candidate for president.

Barr's message of less government and more individual rights fits the self-described "recovering Republican" like a new suit. The Democrats and Republicans spend too much of the public's money, he says. "That just brings us down, and Bob Barr would curb that significantly," Starry, 22, says in a chat at a coffee shop just off campus.

50 STATES/50 DAYS: Read the full series

Across Idaho, the Iraq war and the Wall Street bailout fuel discontent with the major parties and a renewed willingness to consider Libertarian ideas, says Rob Oates, chairman of the Idaho Libertarian Party.

Oates, a Caldwell resident, sees an opportunity for Barr, a former Georgia congressman with a higher profile than any previous Libertarian candidate, to capture 3%, 4% or even 5% of the presidential vote in Idaho. In 2004, Libertarian Party candidate Michael Badnarik won less than 1%.

"This party is going places," Starry says.

A good showing would help local Libertarian candidates and set the stage for better results at the top of the ticket in the future, Oates says.

Barr has his work cut out for him in Idaho. George W. Bush stomped John Kerry 68%-30% in 2004 and Al Gore 67%-28% in 2000. Idaho last voted for a Democrat for president in 1964, when Lyndon Johnson won the state.

"I'm a hard-core Republican," says retired steamfitter-welder Vernon West, 66, standing on the front porch of his home in northeastern Idaho's Mullan. "There's no way in good conscience I could vote for Bob Barr."

A sign in the former Marine's front yard reads, "I'm a bitter gun owner. I vote," a reference to Democratic Sen. Barack Obama's remark about some Americans who are bitter about the economy and cling to religion and guns. West is voting for Republican Sen. John McCain.

McCain improved his standing with the state's Republicans when he picked a more conservative running mate in Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, says Gary Moncrief, a political science professor at Boise State University. Palin was born in Sandpoint, Idaho, and graduated from the University of Idaho.

However, some in overwhelmingly Republican Idaho are not satisfied with the Republicans. In Worley in Kootenai County, a paint-scrawled message on an outhouse reads, "George Bush Presidential Library."

Historically, the anti-big-government message of the Libertarians has found fertile ground in Idaho, where the federal government owns and manages more than 60% of the land within the state's forest-rich borders, Moncrief says.

"They don't always win, but they can garner up to 10% of the vote in some cases, at least in state legislative races," he says.

In 1992, independent Ross Perot won 130,395 votes, 70,000 votes shy of the 202,645 Republican George H.W. Bush got in winning the state.

This year, libertarian-leaning Ron Paul's 24% in the Republican primary May 27 "even surprised people in Idaho," Moncrief says. McCain got 70%.

"I have been a Republican my entire life, and we just felt like the Republican Party doesn't stand for less-intrusive government," says Harry McKinster, 45, a stock trader from Nampa, 20 miles west of Boise.

He's voting for Barr.

He began thinking about switching parties after President Bush turned airport security over to federal employees following 9/11. Private industry could have done the job, McKinster says.

Barr is on the ballot in 44 states, including Idaho, and hopes to reach 49, says spokesman Andrew Davis, who predicts the party's best finish since it was formed in 1971.

In a Zogby International poll Sept. 9-12, Barr got 5.2% support in Ohio, 4.3% in Colorado, 3.9% in Michigan and 2.9% in Nevada in a four-way race with Obama, McCain and independent Ralph Nader. Idaho wasn't surveyed. In the most recent Reuters/Zogby nationwide telephone poll, conducted Sept. 11-13, Barr received 1.3% support in a four-way race.

Barr expects to finish strong in western states such as Alaska, Colorado, Idaho, Oregon and Washington and polls well enough in battleground states such as Pennsylvania and Florida to be a "kingmaker," Davis says. "This year, the Libertarian Party is expecting to do better than it has since it was founded in 1971," he says.

Barr supports enhanced privacy, more home schooling, fewer taxes and stronger private property rights. He calls the taking of land by government through eminent domain, without compelling justification, "a serious attack on fundamental liberty." He is opposed to the Iraq war, entitlement programs and a large federal bureaucracy. Policies on same-sex marriage, he says, should be left to the states.

Those positions fit Starry, who describes himself as socially liberal and fiscally conservative. He will graduate in December and is looking for work as a police officer.

The federal government should not be telling Americans, gay or straight, who they can marry, and the major parties should not be "spending, spending and spending," he says. The war in Iraq is also a sore spot.

"McCain wants to see this war out to the end," Starry says, "and it's just frustrating to me."

Puckett reports for the Great FallsTribune in Montana

Find this article at:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/elec…tateidaho_N.htm

Oh purée, c'est pas gagné.

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Oh purée, c'est pas gagné.

Effectivement. Ta maîtrise du "quote" est hésitante. Je te filerai des cours :icon_up: .

Bastiat

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Nick, cela fait longtemps que j'oublie de te le dire : pourrais-tu, s'il te plaît, insérer les articles que tu cites dans des balises quote, afin de les rendre plus lisibles ?

je trouve mieux les italiques avec un décalage.

ça permet éventuellement de les reprendre aprés, je réserve les quotes aux autres intervenants du forum.

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