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Franchement tu crois qu'elle accroit ses chances en pleurant ?

C'était peut-être sincère. Elle était prêt du but, son mari lui a fait pas mal de sal coup et elle en a marre d'être une petite sénatrice sans signification. Je compatie même si j’ai pas envie qu’elle soit élue.

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C'était peut-être sincère. Elle était prêt du but, son mari lui a fait pas mal de sal coup et elle en a marre d'être une petite sénatrice sans signification. Je compatie même si j’ai pas envie qu’elle soit élue.

Non non et archi-non. Ecoutez le lien que j'ai donné. Elle est tout sauf une pauvre candide dans l'histoire.

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C'était peut-être sincère. Elle était prêt du but, son mari lui a fait pas mal de sal coup et elle en a marre d'être une petite sénatrice sans signification. Je compatie même si j’ai pas envie qu’elle soit élue.

Je crois que tu tombes dans le panneau même pas habilement dressé par cette fieffée coquine.

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Franchement tu crois qu'elle accroit ses chances en pleurant ?

Je crois plutôt le contraire, mais nul ne peut sérieusement prétendre savoir ce qui se passe dans la tête de millions de personnes, et surtout de Démocrates.

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Clinton puis Obama chez les Républicains

Voilà des résultats qu'on n'attendait pas!

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Oui, plus bas au NH qu'en Iowa, c'est dur. Et bien entendu ça justifie Fox et tous ceux qui disent qu'il n'est pas assez important pour lui ouvrir leurs portes.

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C'est surtout la démonstration du fait que le NH n'est plus ce qu'il était, suite notamment à l'immigration massive depuis le Taxachussets.

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Mauvais résultat pour Ron Paul.

Et encore un peu de bashing anti Ron Paul :

Ron Paul Bigotry Revolution

by Daniel Koffler

A damning New Republic expose on Ron Paul shows the “libertarian” Republican candidate to be a racist, a homophobe and an anti-Semite. Will his diehard supporters continue to defend a man who called Martin Luther King a gay pedophile? Daniel Koffler, a former Paul sympathizer, has a compendium of the Texas congressman’s creepiest hits, pulled straight from his decades-old newsletter.

James Kirchick of the New Republic has a devastating piece on Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) online today on the TNR website. Kirchick provides a meticulously detailed history of the “Ron Paul Political Report,” a newsletter Paul had circulated to a network of some 7,000 subscribers from the late 80s and early 90s.

As Kirchick reports—whether describing post-apartheid South Africa as a “destruction of civilization,” alleging that Martin Luther King “seduced underage girls and boys,” warning of “tens of thousands of well-placed friends of Israel in all countries who are willing to wok [sic] for the Mossad in their area of expertise,” or urging white readers to arm themselves after “the first skirmish in the race war of the 1990s,”—virtually every historic trope of racism, anti-Semitism, anti-gay bigotry, or conspiracy theorizing has been featured in the “Ron Paul Political Report” in one way or another. For his part, Paul has alternately acknowledged writing some of the material that went out under his name, only to deny authorship when confronted with the most disturbing details. In any case, Paul has taken “moral responsibility” for the contents of the “Ron Paul Political Report.” What follows is a quick digest of some of his greatest, which is to say most disgraceful, hits.

I might add, on a personal note, that as a libertarian with significant sympathy for Paul’s platform, I initially viewed claims of his past history of racism skeptically. But the evidence is so overwhelming that the defense of Paul is now, itself, indefensible.

Racist Pull Quotes:

“[O]ur country is being destroyed by a group of actual and potential terrorists—and they can be identified by the color of their skin.”

“I think we can safely assume that 95% of the black males in that city [Washington, D.C.] are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.”

“We are constantly told that it is evil to be afraid of black men, but it is hardly irrational.”

“The riots, burning, looting, and murders are only a continuation of 30 years of racial politics.”

“The criminals who terrorize our cities—in riots and on every non-riot day—are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are. As children, they are trained to hate whites, to believe that white oppression is responsible for all black ills, to “fight the power,” and to steal and loot as much money from the white enemy as possible. Anything is justified against ‘The Man.’ And ‘The Woman.’’”

“My friend waved to the tiny [African-American] child, who scowled, stuck out her tongue, and said (somewhat tautologically): “I hate you, white honkey.” And the parents were indulgent. Is any white child taught to hate in this way?” [As a matter of fact, Paul has appeared on a radio program called “The Political Cesspool,” which has featured the neo-Nazi twin pop stars Prussian Blue. –ed.]

“But this is normal, and in fact benign, compared to much of the anti-white ideology in the thoroughly racist black community. The black leadership indoctrinates its followers with phony history and phony theory to bolster its claims of victimology.”

“Korean-Americans, hated by blacks, never riot, and in fact are some of the most productive people in America (the reason for black hatred).”

“The cause of the riots is plain: barbarism. If the barbarians cannot loot sufficiently through legal channels (i.e., the riots being the welfare-state minus the middleman), they resort to illegal ones, to terrorism.”

“We must not kowtow to the street hoodlums and their sanctimonious leaders.”

“Regardless of what the media tell us, most white Americans are not going to believe that they are at fault for what blacks have done to cities across America. The professional blacks may have cowed the elites, but good sense survives at the grass roots.”

“Indeed, it is shocking to consider the uniformity of opinion among blacks in this country.”

“Blacks have ‘civil rights,’ preferences, set-asides for government contracts, gerrymandered voting districts, black bureaucracies, black mayors, black curricula in schools, black beauty contests, black TV shows, black TV anchors, black scholarships and colleges, hate crime laws, and public humiliation for anyone who dares question the black agenda.”

Source: The Ron Paul Report, “Los Angeles Racial Terrorism”

“Black males age 13 that have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary, and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such.”

Source: The Ron Paul Political/Survival report, 1990-1994, excerpted by the Austin Chronicle

Conspiracist Pull Quotes:

“We now know that we are under assault from thugs and revolutionaries who hate Euro-American civilization and everything it stands for: private property, material success for those who earn it, and Christian morality.”

“In San Francisco and perhaps other cities, says expert Burt Blumert, the rioting was led by red-flag carrying members of the Revolutionary Communist Party and the Workers World Party, both Trotskyite-Maoist.”

“Many people tried to buy guns to protect themselves. But, whoops, California has a 14-day waiting period. And then, just to make sure honest Californians could not get ammunition for the firearms they already owned (poor ragefilled youth might be shot), Mayor Tom Bradley ordered all gun and ammo shops closed, a great help to criminals who had stocked up earlier, or who could simply break in and loot.”

“Several days after the violence ended, we learned that there would have been blacks on the King jury—if the NAACP hadn’t engaged in jury tampering by telling potential black jurors that it was their racial duty to convict the cops. The blacks admitted this to defense lawyers, and were rightly excluded from jury. This is a serious crime, but the NAACP will not be prosecuted.”

“Two years ago, in a series of predictions for the 1990s, I said that race riots would erupt in our large cities. I’m now predicting this will be the major problem of the 1990s.” [Helter Skelter, anybody?—ed.]

Source: The Ron Paul Report, “Los Angeles Racial Terrorism”

“Last month I reported on massive, illegal spying by the Anti-Defamation League of B’nai Brith against its perceived opponents, as revealed in California. The ADL keeps track of people and groups from left to right, and purchases illegally obtained information on Americans from its agents in police departments in order to prepare and maintain hundreds of thousands of dossiers.”

“The [Los Angeles] Times also brought to light the ADL’s work against ‘cults,’ especially interesting given the BATF [bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms]-ADL connection.”

“It was such a seminar [i.e. a cult awareness training seminar], arranged by the ADL, that targeted the Branch Davidians in the first place.”

Source: The Ron Paul Survival Report, June 15, 1993

“The intensity with which Israel lobbies in the U.S. Congress is surpassed only by its media campaigns to drown all criticism of Israel. Prominent U.S. Editors and media owners don’t even pretend to objectivity on the issue. They all follow the advice of Norman Podhoretz, editor of the influential neo-conservative magazine Commentary….” [Our emphasis –ed.]

“This bias [Martin Peretz’s] informs every opinion expressed in The New Republic. For example, it opposed Contra aid until the Sandinista government showed sympathy for the PLO.”

Source: The Ron Paul Political Report, date uncertain

“If this walking bomb had gone off, it would have demolished the House Chamber and most of the congressmen in it. Yet this attempted terrorist attack was buried by the media. Why? Because the perpetrator was an undoubtedly mad Israeli, furious over alleged slights to his country… [T]he Israeli lobby deep-sixed the story, and no one outside of Congress ever head about it.”

Source: The Ron Paul Political Report, date uncertain

“The Earth Summit is the creepiest meeting of politicos since the first gathering of Bolsheviks. Officially known as the UN Conference for Environment and Development, it will be held in Brazil in June; bad guys from all over the globe will attend.”

“[Hillary Clinton] is one of the most dangerous women in public life. Not only is she a fanatical abortion advocate, she wants parents to register with the government as a condition for having children to be able to sue and `divorce’ themselves from their parents. Maybe her daughter ought to sue her parents for attempting to raise her as a leftist. That sure qualifies as abuse to me.”

“Disgruntled taxpayer Dean Hicks fired bombs through mortars at night at buildings of the Internal Revenue Service in California. Hicks did damage federal property, but no individuals were injured… Hicks was sentenced to 20 years in prison, given a $45,000 fine, and ordered to pay $335,000 in restitution to the IRS. If he had been a serial murderer, he would not have gotten this sort of sentence.”

“There is good news after the L.A. riots. Statewide, gun sales are up 45% over the same period last year. People have been purchasing a record number. If the cops are not going to take care of the problem, the people will.”

Source: The Ron Paul Political/Survival report, 1990-1994.

http://pajamasmedia.com/2008/01/ron_paul.php

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Euh, en attendant, si Ron Paul a vraiment écrit ces trucs, ça fait peur. Il y a des choses que j'imagine bien prises hors de contexte, mais d'autres moins.

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Réponse de Ron Paul :

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/press-releases/…old-newsletters

“The quotations in The New Republic article are not mine and do not represent what I believe or have ever believed. I have never uttered such words and denounce such small-minded thoughts.

“In fact, I have always agreed with Martin Luther King, Jr. that we should only be concerned with the content of a person's character, not the color of their skin. As I stated on the floor of the U.S. House on April 20, 1999: ‘I rise in great respect for the courage and high ideals of Rosa Parks who stood steadfastly for the rights of individuals against unjust laws and oppressive governmental policies.’

“This story is old news and has been rehashed for over a decade. It's once again being resurrected for obvious political reasons on the day of the New Hampshire primary.

“When I was out of Congress and practicing medicine full-time, a newsletter was published under my name that I did not edit. Several writers contributed to the product. For over a decade, I have publicly taken moral responsibility for not paying closer attention to what went out under my name.”

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Oui, mais cette explication selon laquelle ce n'est pas lui qui avait écrit tout ce qui a été publié et qu'il ne contrôle pas la newsletter qui porte son nom est assez légère. Car, même si c'est vrai, on parle tout de même d'écrits qui ont été publiés durant des années (des centaines de pages). Ça la fout mal pour quelqu'un qui se présente à l'élection présidentielle et qui se montre incapable (si l'explication de Ron Paul est véridique) de contrôler une poignée de collaborateurs ou ce qui se dit en son nom.

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Oui, mais cette explication selon laquelle ce n'est pas lui qui avait écrit tout ce qui a été publié et qu'il ne contrôle pas la newsletter qui porte son nom est assez légère. Car, même si c'est vrai, on parle tout de même d'écrits qui ont été publiés durant des années (des centaines de pages). Ça la fout mal pour quelqu'un qui se présente à l'élection présidentielle et qui se montre incapable (si l'explication de Ron Paul est véridique) de contrôler une poignée de collaborateurs ou ce qui se dit en son nom.

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C'est rassurant de voir que Paul n'est pas l'auteur de ces textes, mais c'est quand même très regrettable, et ça pose question quant à sa capacité à bien s'entourer.

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C'est rassurant de voir que Paul n'est pas l'auteur de ces textes, mais c'est quand même très regrettable, et ça pose question quant à sa capacité à bien s'entourer.

Il n'y a pas non plus de quoi en faire un fromage. Cette péripétie est cependant intéressante, dans la mesure où l'on voit que Paul gêne encore suffisamment pour que certains fouille-merde se sentent obligés d'aller exhumer de vieilles histoires.

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Je ne sais pas, dans la mesure où la première qualité d'un POTUS c'est de savoir s'entourer, ça pose question.

Bon évidemment, dans la mesure où il ne sera pas POTUS, on s'en fout un peu.

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Une opportunité qu'il est d'ailleurs peut être en train de manquer, sachant qu'il est probablement au Zenith de sa carrière au niveau fédéral, c'est de commencer à mettre en avant une ou deux personnes plus jeunes qui pourraient devenir ses successeurs potentiels comme figure de proue libertarienne. Je dis ça en supposant qu'il n'aura pas envie de remettre le couvert lui même dans 4 ans à 76 ans.

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Je ne sais pas, dans la mesure où la première qualité d'un POTUS c'est de savoir s'entourer, ça pose question.

Sauf que ça date d'une époque où il n'était plus politicien et qu'il s'en foutait donc un peu.

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Mauvais résultat pour Ron Paul.

Qu'a-t-il fait de son argent?

Des spots sur des controles de frontieres liberticides.

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C'est rassurant de voir que Paul n'est pas l'auteur de ces textes…

C'est loin d'être sûr :

Ron Paul's Personal Details in Racist Newsletter

Tue, Jan 8, 2008 at 5:32:48 pm PST

In response to the New Republic article on the “Ron Paul Political Report,” Ron Paul stated that he did not write the newsletter and was unaware of the content.

But in this December 1990 issue of the newsletter, which labels Martin Luther King a child molester, there’s some pretty good evidence that Dr. Paul himself wrote at least this entry:

20080108RonPaulMLK01.jpg

Ron Paul’s wife is named Carol, and in 1990 he did have grandchildren.

Read the whole PDF document by clicking the picture above. Even if this was written by someone else, it’s almost more disturbing that Ron Paul could be so disconnected and dysfunctional that he let freaks like this run his newsletter.

The personal details—especially the mention of grandchildren—show that whoever wrote this had a fairly close relationship with Ron Paul. Any way you cut it, this makes his claim that he “didn’t know” look ridiculous.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?en…letter&only

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Mac Cain est en tête des primaires du New Hampshire, suivi de près par Romney.

Ron Paul fait un score honorable de 8% mais il rest devancé cette fois-ci par Giuliani et ne gagne pas de délégués.

Candidate Votes[5] % Delegates (Est.) John McCain 79061 37% 7 Mitt Romney 67574 32% 4 Mike Huckabee 23667 11% 1 Rudy Giuliani 18362 9% 0 Ron Paul 16281 8% 0 Fred Thompson 2572 1% 0 Duncan Hunter 1085 0% 0 Others 0 0% 0

Côté démocrate:

Candidate sort_none.gif Votes sort_none.gif % sort_none.gif Delegates (Est.) sort_none.gif Hillary Clinton 110,550 39% 9 Barack Obama 102,883 37% 9 John Edwards 47,803 17% 4 Bill Richardson 12,987 5% 0 Dennis Kucinich 3,845 1% 0 Mike Gravel 397 0% 0

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