Union européenne

[Nick de Cusa]

nous voulons une europe sociale; il n'as pas dit nous voulons un modéle social étatique basé sur l'impôt et la redistribution !

Si on se met au boulot, on devrait trouver!

Une piste de travail pourrait être la justice

Ce n'est quand même pas à toi que je vais expliquer que l'on peut avoir un autre modéle social que celui que nous connaissons actuellement!

mais bon, tu l'aura cherché!

En termes bouddhistes, je dis " je préfère faire Zaïmou que payer des impôts ",

Ce qui traduit en catho donnerait: je préfère payer le denier du culte, inviter le curé le dimanche, subventionner l'école de mes enfants, accueillir les camps scouts sur ma pelouse et même passer mes vacances à restaurer la chapelle en haut du village, léguer la moitié de ma fortune aux compagnons d'émmaüs, et l'autre aux chrétiens d'orient…que sais-je encore, plutôt que payer des impôts pour qu'ils soient gaspillés

Donc, si je comprends bien, toi tu n'as pas derrière la tête un modèle social qui t'inspirerait ?(je ne te demande pas quel modèle social tu révérais d'imposer aux autres)

ça, c'est toujours pareil! on touche à rien, ça pourrait être pire!!!

Mais c'est l'idée même d'un modèle social qui est nuisible.

Dans une Europe à 500 millions d'habitants, il faut 500 millions de modèles sociaux, avec chacun qui choisit les couvertures qui lui conviennent, ou pas de couvertures du tout.

Avant d'arriver à ça, il faut surtout rejeter toute harmonisation entre pays. Il FAUT que des pays se plantent avec des monopoles étatiques ruineux, par exemple la France qui est un bon candidat à la faillite, et que d'autres trouvent de meilleures solutions pour que les gens puissent comparer.

Même sans impôts et charges sociales IL NE FAUT PAS un modèle.

[Hailhail]

La concurrence fiscale me semble être la voie la plus intéressante, car la plus plausible,pour que se réduise a terme le poids des États.

L'Europe est donc fortement nuisible

[TODA]

Mais c'est l'idée même d'un modèle social qui est nuisible.

Dans une Europe à 500 millions d'habitants, il faut 500 millions de modèles sociaux, avec chacun qui choisit les couvertures qui lui conviennent, ou pas de couvertures du tout.

Avant d'arriver à ça, il faut surtout rejeter toute harmonisation entre pays. Il FAUT que des pays se plantent avec des monopoles étatiques ruineux, par exemple la France qui est un bon candidat à la faillite, et que d'autres trouvent de meilleures solutions pour que les gens puissent comparer.

Même sans impôts et charges sociales IL NE FAUT PAS un modèle.

Comment t'appelle ton truc?si c'est pas un modéle? la "conception du mode d'organisation optimal pour une société de Nick de cusa?

[Nick de Cusa]

Comment t'appelle ton truc?si c'est pas un modéle? la "conception du mode d'organisation optimal pour une société de Nick de cusa?

Ah, tu veux dire modèle au sens du Modèle Européen de Boulangerie. (Chacun achète son pain où il veut quand il veut).

Le MODEM va nous réclamer un Modèle Européen sur chaque service et chaque commerce?

[Bastiat]

Ah, tu veux dire modèle au sens du Modèle Européen de Boulangerie. (Chacun achète son pain où il veut quand il veut).

Le MODEM va nous réclamer un Modèle Européen sur chaque service et chaque commerce?

Trouvé sur le blog de Daniel Hannan

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/Daniel_Hannan

[Tortue joviale]

Trouvé sur le blog de Daniel Hannan

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/Daniel_Hannan

Muahahahahahahaha

[Hidalgo]

Préparez vos lexomiles, voici l'arbitraire et le caprice devenir lois:

[dailymotion]x4g7s0_protestation-au-parlement-les-suite_politic[/dailymotion]

[Tortue joviale]

Hidalgo, il n'est pas moral de porter ton avatar

[Hidalgo]

Hidalgo, il n'est pas moral de porter ton avatar

Je sais, mais c'est un symbol. Le jour où je le regarderai de manière apaisée, je serai un nouvel homme.

[john_ross]

Philippe de Villiers, Président du "Mouvement pour la France" et Député européen sortant, candidat tête de liste pour le parti "Libertas" dans le Grand Ouest, était l'invité des GG de 13 h !!

Le pipeau de Maillot n'a qu'à bien se tenir !!

Selon lui, les députés européens vont avoir une nouvelle "piscine ludique" pour la modique somme de… 9,6 millions d'euros.

Phillipe de Villiers fixe déjà le rendez-vous : "Les députés européens vont désormais se retrouver sur les échelles pivotantes et les bassins d'eau chaude. C'est n'importe quoi !"

http://www.rmc.fr/blogs/lesgrandesgueules….%20villiers%209

[LeSanton]

Cohérence du discours d'AL, entre sondage espagnol sur les beauties in politics, Bobino, et la première page de Closer: (badurl) http://www.lejdd.fr/cmc/politique/200917/alternative-liberale-pas-de-politique-a-la-papa_204314.html (badurl)

Entre 3 et 5% des suffrages, faut pas rêver Sabine, divise par 10 et c'est emballé-vendu…

[p.a]

Cohérence du discours d'AL, entre sondage espagnol sur les beauties in politics, Bobino, et la première page de Closer: (badurl) http://www.lejdd.fr/cmc/politique/200917/alternative-liberale-pas-de-politique-a-la-papa_204314.html (badurl)

Entre 3 et 5% des suffrages, faut pas rêver Sabine, divise par 10 et c'est emballé-vendu…

faire entre 0,3% et 0,5% me parait difficile. ça serait un beau succès pour AL.

[neuneu2k]

faire entre 0,3% et 0,5% me parait difficile. ça serait un beau succès pour AL.

L'abstention prévue permet une sur représentation des petits partis, je ne doute pas de la possibilité d'un score a plusieurs pour cents en ile de france en tout cas.

[p.a]

L'abstention prévue permet une sur représentation des petits partis, je ne doute pas de la possibilité d'un score a plusieurs pour cents en ile de france en tout cas.

chouette les paris sont ouverts: je dis moins de 0,3% en Ile de France.

[Normous]

Votre discours est assez offensif. Où vous situez vous dans l'opposition à Sarkozy aujourd'hui?

Aujourd'hui en France il y a deux oppositions. Il y a Besancenot et puis il y a nous. Techniquement, le PS est présent mais il est totalement aphone. De temps en temps Ségolène Royal s'exprime mais elle n'est pas dans le discours politique. Les seuls qu'on entende aujourd'hui sont l'extrême gauche et nous. Même si on nous entend moins, nous avons je crois l'un des discours les plus forts et les plus cohérents.

[Nick de Cusa]

Elle voulait dire le FDP.

[TODA]

Elle voulait dire le FDP.

FDP? kesaco?

[Nick de Cusa]

http://www.fdp.de/

[TODA]

Merci quand même!

[Nick de Cusa]

Merci quand même!

Bitte schön.

[free jazz]

Notre combat contre les paradis fiscaux

Il y a quelques jours, Benoit Hamon a remporté une belle bataille en faisant adopter son rapport sur la révision de la directive épargne par le Parlement européen. Il signe ainsi l’abrogation du secret bancaire en Europe d’ici à 2014.

Benoît Hamon : L'ère du secret bancaire est révolue

http://www.lesechos.fr/info/analyses/48579…est-revolue.htm

http://www.tdg.ch/actu/suisse/bruxelles-se…lite-2009-04-28

Tout simplement. Il faut vite sortir de ce machin.

[h16]

Benoît Hamon pave niaisement la route aux prochains inspecteurs de la police politique & fiscale que nous réserveront les gouvernements à venir.

[TODA]

Les indiens, eux, ils sont fiers de voter!

votez!

[TODA]

Les indiens, eux, ils sont fiers de voter!

votez!

Zut, je vous prie de bien vouloir excuser mon manque de maitrise de l'outil informatique! j'essaie cela:

Voilà cela semble fonctionner! Vous savez ce qui vous reste à faire!

[Ash]

Elles ont l'air rigolotes les listes des Verts pour les européennes :

http://lumiere101.com/2009/05/05/bientot-les-europeennes/

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Council formally nominates Barroso for second term

By Simon Taylor

09.07.2009

No objections from EU governments to nomination.

EU governments today (9 July) formally nominated José Manuel Barroso for a second term as European Commission President.

The Council of Ministers issued a statement saying that Barroso had been formally nominated. Sweden, which holds the presidency of the EU, asked all EU governments yesterday whether they would agree to nominate Barroso formally and none objected.

The European Parliament will vote on 15 Sepetember on whether to approve Barroso for a second term.

Source: http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/2009/…erm-/65469.aspx

Ni Le Fig, ni Le Monde, ni Libe en parlent. Lib.org, premier sur l'info.

[Bastiat]

Ni Le Fig, ni Le Monde, ni Libe en parlent. Lib.org, premier sur l'info.

si c'est pas un bel exemple de pensée unique ça !

[G7H+]

VISIONS OF EUROPE IN 2030

A Postmodern Middle Ages

By Parag Khanna

In the future, globalization will further weaken the nation-state. A long transition process toward global government will be, like the Middle Ages, a time of great insecurity. But Europe's governance structure will prevail, even in the United States. It will buy its way to peace and its model will be copied across the globe.

Europe invented, named, and shaped all eras of history -- and will continue to do so in the future. The classical world is defined by the flourishing of Greece; the Middle Ages followed the sacking of Rome; the European Renaissance led to the formation of nation states that organized the world in their image; and in the 21st century, Europe is pioneering the post-nation state regionalism and corresponding postmodern governance that is also being adopted around the world. Already we can see hints of the world going Europe's way. Just consider the ongoing global financial crisis: ever more observers foresee the need for a balance between American capitalism and inflexible, overly managed statism. The right mix is European-style, social democratic capitalism.

First let us take a step back and see how the global landscape has already come to resemble a crucial period of European history, namely the Middle Ages. It was a long and uncertain period, and thus an ideal metaphor for our times. It was an age of plagues and progress, commercial revolutions, expanding empires, crusades, city-states, merchants, and universities. The new middle ages -- synonymous with our postmodern globalization age -- have already begun.

Particularly the city-state, the most prominent medieval political unit, will continue its resurrection. Today's list of "global cities" -- New York, Los Angeles, Miami, Sao Paulo, London, Dubai, Singapore, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Tokyo -- will also include Alexandria, Karachi, Istanbul, and others. Then as now, city-states are commercial hubs all but divorced from their national anchor, reminding that corporate actors will be paramount well into the future. Today's sovereign wealth funds, fused with city-state savvy, will be tomorrow's Hanseatic League, forming capital networks that radiate the newest technologies to those in their proximity. Hamburg and Dubai have just signed an agreement to boost bilateral trade and technical cooperation. City-states will pay for their protection as global security privatizes further into corporate hands, the knights, mercenaries, and condottieri of the 21st century.

The Middle Ages witnessed innovations from the cannon to the compass, all geared toward enhanced global exploration. So too will the speed of communication and transport bring us ever closer toward simultaneity. As the ranks of billionaires soars beyond Gates, Branson, and Ambani, mega-philanthropists will become the postmodern Medicis, financing explorations in outer space and the deep sea, governing territory and production like medieval princes.

The new Middle Ages will be as much multipolar with expanding empires on the Eurasian landmass as apolar with no single global leader. Charlemagne's efforts to resurrect the Holy Roman Empire have been succeeded over a millennium later by the multi-pronged armadas of Brussels Eurocrats steadily colonizing the Baltics, Balkans, and eventually Anatolia and the Caucasus. Their book is not the Bible but the "acquis communautaire," the 35 chapters of Lex Europea rebuilding European Union member states from the inside out.

Not only Ukraine and Turkey, but with any luck even depopulated, cantankerous Russia will be an EU member by 2030. Having already become one of Europe's main energy arteries, Turkey will also take on the role as a major trade and investment corridor to Central Asia and the Near East. The road networks linking Anatolia to the Caspian Sea will have been extended southward toward Syria, Iran, and Iraq as well, providing direct access to Mideast energy and export routes for high-end European products.

The Middle East will be integral to Europe's expanded sphere of influence in 2030. Though the Arab world will be more populous than Europe, its energy supply will be dwindling and its trade relationships ever more tied to European investment for large-scale production of manufactured goods from automobiles to solar-cells. Islam will remain a fractured faith, widely practiced, but also subdued by the impetus of economic development. Just as Europe bought off communism, it will purchase the reform of Islamism toward constructive, prosperous social democracy. North African Arab states will be ever more bound to Europe through natural gas pipelines, outsourced small-scale production, and agriculture. Sarkozy's present vision of a Mediterranean Union will indeed have blossomed into a resurrection of the Roman Empire -- with Brussels as its capital.

But this Europe of 2030 will not only be externally integrating its neighbors, but internally blending with them as well. The robust Ukrainian and Turkish populations will be ever more part of the European economic and social fabric, maintaining the empire's status as a manufacturing juggernaut. Arab migrants will remain a feature of Western European societies, but like the Turks of the late 20th century, become constructive diasporas advancing progressive social and micro-economic models through a free flow of capital and ideas with the West.

Russia's Path

The path for Russia will in fact be similar to that of Turkey. Initial restraint and reluctance combined with a strong desire to maintain a free hand in foreign policy, followed by gradual acceptance of the merits of coordination and shared leverage, and an insatiable appetite for high-quality European investment and generous subsidies. Russia will trade its insecure control over oil and gas supply and prices for the stability and reliability of trustworthy European consumers. It will settle for fair compensation, and learn how to spend it more wisely with the assistance of Brussels, Frankfurt, and London.

Other regions will similarly exhibit European-style hierarchies. China will have completed restoration of its ancient status as the "Middle Kingdom," presiding over half the world's population through its massive export volume, energy infrastructure feeding back to the core, and networks of Chinese diaspora. The world's third center of gravity will still be the United States, demographically stable but also more thoroughly blended with Latin America. A century after Kennedy's "Alliance for Progress," the United States will have rediscovered its southern counterparts, especially Brazil, as industrial partners to boost the hemisphere's competitiveness with Asia-and for energy independence from the Middle East.

The model of regional governance that the European Union represents in its most sophisticated form will be copied not only in North America and East Asia, but gradually in South America and Africa as well. Already Brazil speaks of a South American Union of economic integration and diplomatic stature under its benign leadership. The African Union, while lagging behind other regional blocs, will have developed its much needed peacekeeping force to stabilize its many festering conflicts, while trade barriers will have come down, allowing Africa's many land locked nations to bring their goods to regional and world markets.

Europe as Middleman

The European model for the United States thus applies on the levels of social democratic capitalism and federal governance mechanisms for regional institutions and markets -- but also in terms of foreign policy. Europe will have liberalized and modernized its periphery using the steady hand of governance reform and foreign investment, strategies America should see are the key to stabilizing Mexico and Central America. America's relations with China will hopefully be influenced by this psychology, transformed toward a focus on accountability with Chinese characteristics rather than American-style democracy.

Europe is well-positioned to be this ideological and cultural intermediary between East and West. Already Indian and Chinese artists are thriving in the European scene, while wealthy Asians (and Arabs) have become the prime purchasers of European impressionists and modernists. Similarly, in the field of education, more Chinese are already studying in European universities than American ones, learning the new social democratic ethos for the 21st century much as they learned Marxism and communism from Europe in the 19th and 20th centuries.

Even as European militaries consolidate into a formidable conventional force, this ground power will remain more useful for policing and ad hoc interventions than long-term war-fighting or occupations. But such a pan-European constabulary force will be necessary for the uncertainties of the new Middle Ages. Indeed, not much was certain in the Middle Ages, and an equal number of risk factors exist in the decades ahead. What of AIDS, malaria, SARS, and other diseases which could become plagues like the 14th century Black Death? And what impact will migratory hordes have, potentially unsettled by wars and environmental disasters? Who will be the next Mongols, small, concentrated hordes who violently establish peace, law, and order? Establishing a new global governance will take centuries, hence the uncertain leadership and complex landscape of the mid-21st century. The next Renaissance is still a long way off.

Parag Khanna directs the Global Governance Program at the New America Foundation in Washington.

Source : http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe…,637830,00.html

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Début rapide des négociations d’adhésion à l'Union Européenne avec l’Islande

Seulement quelques jours après que l’Islande ait rempli sa demande pour rejoindre l’Union européenne, les ministres européens des Affaires étrangères, qui se réunissent aujourd’hui (27 juillet) à Bruxelles, devraient l’accepter et demander à la Commission européenne de rédiger une opinion.

Iceland submitted its application for EU membership on 16 July 2009, the Commission website indicates. On that same day, the Nordic country's parliament backed the government's plan to begin accession talks with the European Union, an all but unthinkable prospect until the global financial crisis wrecked the island's economy.

Last year, the country received a $10 billion financial rescue package led by the International Monetary Fund.

Iceland will be ready to complete negotiations by the end of next year, official representatives told EurActiv (20/07/09).The country now expects its membership bid to be discussed at a 27 July meeting of EU foreign ministers.

Source : http://www.euractiv.com/fr/elargissement/d…/article-184395

Klaus threatens to throw Lisbon plans off schedule

Václav Klaus, the president of the Czech Republic, is threatening to thwart the ambitions of Sweden's presidency of the EU to see the Lisbon treaty take effect before the end of the year. If he lives up to his threat, the appointment of the next European Commission could be delayed until 2010.

Sweden wants to see the provisions of the Lisbon treaty pushed through as swiftly as possible if Ireland votes to approve the treaty in its 2 October referendum. Prime Minister Fredrik Reinfeldt, who presides over the European Council until the end of the year, said he wanted to see the EU “move over to the Lisbon treaty, if possible, late in our presidency”.

But EU officials are worried that Klaus could upset the timetable by delaying signing the treaty into Czech law beyond October. Seventeen senators, either Civic Democrats or independents who support Klaus, are planning to refer the Lisbon treaty to the country's constitutional court at the start of August.

They will be asking for a second time if it complies with the Czech constitution. Klaus would be able to delay signing the ratification document until the court had given its verdict.

Andrew Duff, a UK Liberal MEP with a strong interest in constitutional affairs, said that Klaus was “running out of plausible legal ploys to procrastinate further”.

Source : http://www.europeanvoice.com/article/impor…dule/65561.aspx

French Foreign Minister: "No more issues should be decided in one country - they must all be considered in Europe".

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner has announced that, with the Lisbon Treaty, Europe will be "the most politically significant entity in the world with a responsibility for our destiny, which does well beyond our borders". He added that "there are no more issues anymore which can be decided in one country, they must all be considered in the Europe of 27." (Speech, 23 July)

MEPs take unprecedented secret vote to block whistleblower from top EP Committee job.

UKIP MEP Marta Andreasen, the EU's former Chief Accountant who publicly claimed that there was a £172 million discrepancy between two sets of Brussels accounts, has been blocked from becoming Vice-Chairman of the European Parliament's Budgetary Committee by an unprecedented 'secret ballot' of MEPs. The centre-right European People's Party and the Socialists broke parliamentary convention on the allocation of committee posts by demanding a vote by secret ballot to block Mrs Andreasen's candidature. Chris Davies, a Liberal Democrat, attacked the "shameful decision", saying that: "The message it sends to the public is that anyone who speaks out against malpractice in Europe risks being excluded from office." (Telegraph The Parliament, 21 July)

Sarkozy plans 'massive expansion' of Paris' financial district to rival London.

President Nicolas Sarkozy is planning a massive expansion of the business district on the north-western edge of Paris, known as La Défense. "It is clear today that the City [of London] is in great difficulty and that is an opportunity for France to reinforce its financial attractiveness," Patrick Devedjian, the Minister in charge of La Défense expansion, said last month.

French bankers are counting on new EU powers over financial regulation and supervision to end what they see as the advantages afforded to British banks under existing UK rules. France is also calling for an EU clampdown on hedge funds, which many in the industry in London regard as protectionist. (FT: Analysis, 24 July)

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Un extrait d'un court essai de 2006 écrit par Theodore Dalrymple et intitulé Is “Old Europe” Doomed? pour l'excellent site CATO-Unbound :

The European Union serves several purposes, none of which have much to do with the real challenges facing the continent. The Union helps Germans to forget that they are Germans, and gives them another identity rather more pleasing in their own estimation; it allows the French to forget that they are now a medium sized nation, one among many, and gives them the illusion of power and importance; it acts as a giant pension fund for politicians who are no longer willing or able successfully to compete in the rough and tumble of electoral politics, and enables them to hang on to influence and power long after they have been rejected at the polls; and it acts as a potential fortress against the winds of competition that are now blowing from all over the world, and that are deeply unsettling to people who desire security above all else.

Apocalyptic thought is curiously pleasurable. Doom is too strong a word, in my view; I think it would be more accurate to say that Europe is sleepwalking to further relative decline. But we should also modestly remember that the future is, ultimately, unknowable.

Source : http://www.cato-unbound.org/2006/02/06/the…-europe-doomed/

A propos de CATO Unbound, que je vous recommande vraiment de lire :

Each month, Cato Unbound will present an essay on a big-picture topic by one of the world’s leading thinkers. The ideas in that essay will then be tested by the comments and criticism of equally eminent thinkers, each of whom will respond to the month’s lead essay and then to one another. The idea is to create a hub for wide-ranging, open-ended conversation, where ideas will be advanced, challenged, and refined in public view.

Source : http://www.cato-unbound.org/