Adrian Posté 29 mars Signaler Posté 29 mars How population stratification led to a decade of sensationally false genetic findings On parlait du livre de Reich sur l'autre topic : Citation This height example might seem far-fetched, but pretty much exactly what I described actually happened, and it led to a decade-long mess where the field was convinced that Europeans had undergone rapid natural selection on height (and other phenotypes correlated with height like … head circumference) only to learn in 2019 that it was all or nearly all explained by stratification (see Berg et al. and Sohail et al. eLife; or press coverage that concludes “this is a major wake up call … a game changer”). But prior to learning this error, the possibility of selection on head circumference got people speculating what else about the head could be under rapid recent selection. That speculation included an famous opinion piece by esteemed population geneticist David Reich raising concern that genetic analyses may soon reveal substantial biological differences among human populations on traits like intelligence; differences that we as a society were unprepared to grapple with1. Naturally, in some circles, Reich’s cautious and circumscribed warnings that we may eventually find challenging genetic differences were read as a kind of Straussian message, a cryptic admission of precisely the “racist prejudices and agendas” Reich was attempting to head off (and, I should note, that he spent another two chapters in his book explicitly denouncing). Snippets from his editorial were further stripped of context, sometimes reworded entirely, and became meme fodder for open racists: Harvard’s superstar geneticist is secretly on our side, the truth about the inferior races will soon be revealed. And these memes continue to get passed around today, more than five years since the motivating height result was shown to be an artifact (in a paper on which Reich is a corresponding author no less). All of which is to say that poor control for population structure can have, well, some pretty big consequences. Citation For educational attainment, they find no significant genetic correlation with number of children and a point estimate at roughly zero (though with large uncertainty). But for Cognitive Performance / IQ scores, they do find a significantly positive genetic correlation with number of children. That’s right, positive. The same variants that appear to increase cognitive performance also appear to increase the number of offspring (implying, if all of the model assumptions hold up, that higher cognitive performance may actually be under some amount of positive selection). Not only is this the complete opposite of what has been observed in prior analyses from polygenic scores, it also runs counter to the environmental observation. Have we stumbled on a paradox? Not quite, as Beauchamp also noted in a commentary about his own findings: First, there is nothing paradoxical about my findings. Phenotypes arise from the interplay of genetic and environmental factors, and environmental factors can induce phenotypic changes that run counter to those induced by natural selection. Although the slightly lower fertility of individuals carrying genetic variants associated with higher EA [educational attainment] implies that natural selection has been slowly favoring lower EA, countervailing cultural, economic, policy, and other environmental factors are almost certainly responsible for the vast increase in average EA observed in the past century. It turns out that this view may have been conceptually correct but directionally wrong. When stratification is better controlled, there appears to be no direct genetic relationship between EA and fertility. And if natural selection is acting at all, it is slowly favoring higher Cognitive Performance. This is not yet a definitive answer — the Tan et al. / LDSC results still come with substantial statistical uncertainty and model assumptions — but it is clear that as we do a better job of addressing stratification, the results can change completely. 1
Sloonz Posté Mardi at 19:51 Signaler Posté Mardi at 19:51 Caplan nous tease son prochain livre, et ça a l’air très prometteur : https://www.betonit.ai/p/capitalism-socialism-and-social-desirability
Adrian Posté Mardi at 20:14 Signaler Posté Mardi at 20:14 Citation The brutally honest argument against government-funded health care, in contrast, is that the cost of saving a marginal life is too damn high. Spending $100,000 a month to keep an 85-year-old on life support is a terrible use of taxpayer money; a faithful steward of the public interest would pull the plug Prometteur en effet /s
Tramp Posté Mardi at 20:19 Signaler Posté Mardi at 20:19 Case in point. J’imagine que tu donnes tout ton argent chaque moi pour donner quelques semaines de plus à vivre à des gens de 90 ans.
Cthulhu Posté Mardi at 20:39 Signaler Posté Mardi at 20:39 Ça n'a pas l'air très bien argumenté sur ce court extrait (et ça ne m'étonnerait pas que ce soit le cas pour Caplan) mais on romantise beaucoup la vie de personnes âgées. Alzheimer/Parkinson à cet âge, tu ne sais plus où tu es 90% du temps, tu n'est plus forcément en état d'aller aux toilettes de façon indépendante (je vous épargne les détails). Si tu as un cancer, c'est douleur quasi-permanente et la chimio qui te bouffe de l'intérieur. Potentiellement cablé en permanence à un appareil pour pouvoir respirer. Et encore, je ne parle que des cas que je connais, j'imagine qu'il y a beaucoup de variantes toutes aussi horrifiques. 1
GilliB Posté Mercredi at 06:13 Signaler Posté Mercredi at 06:13 (modifié) Parmi l’ensemble des remboursements de l’assurance maladie en 2008, 10,5 % sont associés à la dernière année de vie. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S039876201200613X Edit Entre 15 et 75 ans, les remboursements moyens au cours de la dernière année de vie des personnes décédées en 2008 sont plus élevés pour les femmes, puisqu’ils s’élèvent à 30 731 € ([30 438 € ; 31 025 €]), contre 26 076 € ([25 878 € ; 26 273 €]) pour les hommes (p < 0,0001) (Fig. 2). Cette tendance s’inverse après 75 ans, avec des remboursements annuels moyens de 20 747 € ([20 613 € ; 20 880 €]) pour les hommes et 16 366 € ([16 270 € ; 16 462 €]) pour les femmes (p < 0,0001). Modifié Mercredi at 06:18 par GilliB
Lameador Posté Mercredi at 06:16 Signaler Posté Mercredi at 06:16 2 minutes ago, GilliB said: Parmi l’ensemble des remboursements de l’assurance maladie en 2008, 10,5 % sont associés à la dernière année de vie. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S039876201200613X Et 99% vont à des gens en mauvaise santé. No shit sherlock. 1
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