Commandante Donald Trump : troll, puis candidat puis président puis putschiste puis re président

[Mégille]

J'ai mis une seconde ou deux avant de comprendre qu'on ne parlait pas de Magic the Gathering. J'étais très confus. 

[Adrian]

Le 09/09/2024 à 23:46, Marlenus a dit :

Sauvez les chatons, votez Trump

 

(Pour ceux qui n'auraient pas suivit, les attaques actuelles sur les migrants c'est qu'ils mangent des chatons).

 

 

 

 

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In exclusive interviews, NewsGuard spoke both with Lee, a 35-year-old hardware store worker who has lived in Springfield for four years, and Newton, her neighbor and a 12-year resident of Springfield. The interviews reveal just how flimsy and unsubstantiated the rumor was from the beginning — based entirely on third hand hearsay. Yet it quickly gained traction and, remarkably, found its way to Trump’s lips on a national stage. 

 

“I’m not sure I’m the most credible source because I don’t actually know the person who lost the cat,” Newton said about the rumor she had passed on to her neighbor, Lee, the Facebook poster. Newton explained to NewsGuard that the cat owner was “an acquaintance of a friend” and that she heard about the supposed incident from that friend, who, in turn, learned about it from “a source that she had.” Newton added: “I don’t have any proof.
https://www.newsguardrealitycheck.com/p/origins-haitians-eating-pets-claim

 

 

 

 

[Cthulhu]

Une nouvelle stratégie gagnante des stratégistes républicains.

 

 

Un des rares journalistes compétents de droite (Rufo) a trouvé une vidéo qui "prouve" que les immigrants mangent des chats. Sauf que :

- C'est dans la ville d'à côté (bon ok, pourquoi pas)

- Ce sont des Africains, pas des Haïtiens (bon ok, les Américains ne sont pas forts en géographie)

- Ça date de l'été dernier (bon ok, mais on devrait avoir quelque chose de plus récent si c'est un problème d'une telle ampleur ?)

- Les chats sont par terre et vivants et c'est un poulet sur le gril.

[Adrian]

 

 

Citation

A Haitian driver made an illegal turn and smashed into a mother’s pickup truck in Springfield, Ohio, a Post reporter witnessed Friday — as the small city grapples with a surge of immigrants from the Caribbean country who are unfamiliar with the rules of the road.

 

Robyn Stultz, a 32-year-old mother of three, was approaching the intersection at West First Street and St Paris Road with her 7-year-old autistic daughter in the backseat when a black Hyundai sedan collided with her truck around 2:30 p.m.

 

The Haitian driver made a right turn from the left lane — marked for continuing straight or turning left —  and crashed into Stultz’s Ford F-350, which was making a right turn from the right lane, when he tried to overtake her, a Post reporter observed.

 

The Haitian driver, who remained at the scene, told The Post he was licensed and was driving to his job at Amazon. He said he had lived in the US for three years.

“I went to turn, there was an accident and that’s it. Why are you asking me questions?” he said.

[...]

Mandy Heaton, Kathy Heaton’s daughter-in-law, asked the Springfield City commission in an emotional testimony to support “Kathy’s Law,” which would require all immigrants seeking an Ohio driver’s license to go through the same tests and regulations required of first-time American drivers.

 

Ca méritait bien un article d'un journal d'envergure national..

[Cthulhu]

Il y a 14 heures, Adrian a dit :

Ca méritait bien un article d'un journal d'envergure national..

 

Ce n'est pas comme si on parlait de la première puissance nucléaire au monde qui apporte son soutien militaire à un pays attaquant la deuxième puissance nucléaire.

 

Ou d'un pays dont le paiement de la dette par trimestre dépasse le billion de dollars.

 

Non, il n'y a clairement rien de plus important.

 

EDIT: le paiement de l'intérêt de la dette

[Bisounours]

Je ne vois pas ce qu'il y a de surprenant. C'est aussi le cas au Venezuela, en Corée du Nord, où les animaux domestiques ne doivent pas pulluler, et encore moins les zoos. Lorsque les gens ont faim et n'ont pas les moyens de se payer à manger, la protection animale n'est sûrement pas prioritaire.

C'est choquant et idiot de le proclamer dans ce contexte, mais pour autant, ça doit être une réalité.

 

[Bisounours]

Oui, bon, ce n'est pas une raison pour poster des images dégueus. C'est nul, et quel intérêt ?

 

[Mégille]

"Cannibalisme animal"... Je ne m'attendais pas à voir une convergence des luttes MAGA et vegan. 

[Bisounours]

Non. Pas besoin d'images crades et sanglantes pour savoir que ça existe.

Et pour rappel, ici, le sujet, c'est Trump.

[Adrian]

 

 

Un outrage de plus pour rattraper son débat ?

[Marlenus]

L'histoire des chats et des haitiens c'est totalement une stratégie qui a été analysée et qui marche:

 

L'idée est de faire comprendre que l'enjeu de l'élection c'est l'immigration, où clairement Trump est vu comme plus crédible pour la stopper (et ce même si son bilan est faible).

 

Donc tu bombarde la scène médiatique de trucs sur les migrants c'est horrible.

Ici "Les migrants vont manger vos chats".

Les opposants à Trump voit un truc facile à débunker (mais dont le débunk ne marche que chez les opposants à Trump).

Donc ils en parlent.

Et donc le sujet de la campagne devient l'immigration.

 

Faut bien voir que la véracité d'une information a peu d'intérêt. Ou plus exactement, il est acté pour chaque camp, qu'il y a leur vérité et la vérité du camp d'en face. 

Ce qu'il faut c'est imposer un thème à la campagne.

Si Trump arrive à imposer l'immigration comme thème majeur, il devrait l'emporter.

[Alchimi]

Il y a 11 heures, Adrian a dit :

 

 

Un outrage de plus pour rattraper son débat ?

Donc, si tu sodomise sans violer ou assassiner ça passe? Cool, merci de l'info Trump. /s

[Jean_Karim]

il y a 8 minutes, Alchimi a dit :

Donc, si tu sodomise sans violer ou assassiner ça passe? Cool, merci de l'info Trump. /s

Oui, sodomiser sans violer ça passe dans la majorité des pays développés ^^

[Freezbee]

Trump survit à une nouvelle tentative d'assassinat :

 

Trump safe after new assassination attempt, suspect arrested

 

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Sept 15 (Reuters) - Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump was safe on Sunday after the Secret Service foiled what the FBI called an apparent assassination attempt while he was golfing on his course in West Palm Beach, Florida.

 

Secret Service agents spotted and fired on a gunman in bushes near the property line of the golf course, a few hundred yards from where Trump was playing, law enforcement officials said.

 

The suspect left an AK-47-style assault rifle and other items at the scene and fled in a vehicle but was later arrested.

 

The apparent attempt on Trump's life came just two months after he was shot at a campaign rally in Pennsylvania, sustaining a minor injury to his right ear.

 

Both incidents highlight the challenges of keeping presidential candidates safe in a hotly contested and polarized campaign with just over seven weeks to go before the Nov. 5 election.

 

It was not clear if or how the suspect knew Trump was playing golf at the time, but the attempted attack was sure to raise new questions about the level of protection he is given.

 

CNN, Fox News and The New York Times identified the suspect as Ryan Wesley Routh, 58, of Hawaii, citing unnamed law enforcement officials. The FBI declined to comment and Reuters could not independently verify his identity.

 

Reuters found profiles on X, Facebook, and LinkedIn for a Ryan Routh who appeared to be the man identified as the suspect by those news organizations.

 

Reuters was not able to confirm these were the suspect's accounts and law enforcement agencies declined to comment, but public access to the Facebook and X profiles was removed hours after the shooting.

 

The three accounts bearing Routh's name suggest he was an avid supporter of Ukraine in its war against Russia. In several of the posts, he appeared to be trying to help recruit soldiers for Ukraine's war effort.

 

GUN BARREL IN BUSHES

Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw said Secret Service agents saw a rifle barrel poking out from bushes about 400 to 500 yards (365 to 460 meters) away from Trump as they cleared holes of potential threats ahead of his play.

 

The agents engaged the gunman, firing at least four rounds of ammunition around 1:30 p.m. (1730 GMT).

 

The gunman then dropped his rifle, and left behind two backpacks and other items, and fled in a black Nissan car. The sheriff said a witness saw the gunman and managed to take photos of his car and license plate before he escaped.

 

"The Secret Service did exactly what should have been done," Bradshaw said, declining to identify the suspect or provide a possible motive.

 

After the suspect fled the scene, police sent out an alert to statewide agencies with the information on his vehicle, which led to sheriff’s deputies in neighboring Martin County apprehending the suspect on I-95 about 40 miles (65km) from the golf course.

 

Fox News presenter Sean Hannity said he'd spoken to both Trump and Steve Witkoff, a New York real estate investor and longtime Trump friend who was on the golf course with him on Sunday.

 

"They were on the fifth hole. And the way Steve described this, the way the president described it, they both had exactly the same story, which is that they heard pop pop, pop pop," said Hannity. The Secret Service "pounced on the president, covered him", he added.

 

Republican U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham, in an interview with the New York Times, said he had spoken with Trump and the former president expressed gratitude for his Secret Service detail, adding that the president said, "These people are awesome."

 

In response to a reporter’s question, officials acknowledged that because Trump is not in office, the full golf course was not cordoned off.

 

"If he was, we would have had the entire golf course surrounded,” Bradshaw said during Sunday's briefing. “Because he’s not, security is limited to the areas that the Secret Service deems possible.”

 

A map showing the location of Trump's golf club and the location where police apprehended the suspect about 40 miles away.

 

Trump sent an email to supporters saying there were "gunshots in my vicinity, but before rumors start spiraling out of control, I wanted you to hear this first: I AM SAFE AND WELL!" according to an email seen by Reuters.

 

The White House said in a statement that President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris had been briefed about the incident and were relieved to know that he was safe.

 

Biden later said he had directed his team to ensure the Secret Service has the resources it needs to ensure Trump's safety, according to a statement released by the White House.

 

Trump is locked in a tight presidential election race with Harris, who has had a surge in the polls since replacing Biden as the Democratic Party's candidate in July.

 

"Violence has no place in America," Harris said in an X social media post.

 

On X in 2020, Routh expressed support for Democratic U.S. presidential candidate Bernie Sanders and mocked Biden as "sleepy Joe."

 

Earlier this year, Routh tagged Biden in a post on X: "@POTUS Your campaign should be called something like KADAF. Keep America democratic and free. Trumps should be MASA ...make Americans slaves again master. DEMOCRACY is on the ballot and we cannot lose."

 

Trump's running mate in the presidential election, U.S. Senator JD Vance, said he spoke to Trump after the shooting and that the former president was in good spirits.

 

Trump was grazed in the right ear and one rallygoer was killed in the gunfire at the Pennsylvania rally on July 13. The gunman, identified as a 20-year-old Thomas Crooks, was shot and killed by a Secret Service sniper.

 

That was the first shooting of a U.S. president or major party presidential candidate in more than four decades, and the glaring security lapse forced Kimberly Cheatle to resign as Secret Service director under bipartisan congressional pressure.

 

The Secret Service's new acting director said in August that he was "ashamed" of the security lapse that led to the assassination attempt.

 

[Freezbee]

L'apprenti sicaire :

 

[Antoninov]

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-deportation-camps_n_66e4793de4b03e3cc10020c3

Inside Team Trump’s Plans For Mass Deportation Camps

 

 

[cedric.org]

1 hour ago, Silence said:

Je précise que je n'ai pas compris le post insta. Quelqu'un peut-il m'expliquer ?

Arrête de poster des trucs que tu ne comprends pas alors plutôt que dans le doute spammer. C'est un peu lunaire la.

[Tramp]

90% de tes postes ressemblent à ca ^

[Adrian]

Le 15/09/2024 à 02:20, Adrian a dit :

 

 

 

[Marlenus]

 

 

Franchement, il m'épate.

 

[Adrian]

Trump Says That if He Loses, ‘the Jewish People Would Have a Lot to Do’ With It

 

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Former President Donald J. Trump, speaking on Thursday at a campaign event in Washington centered on denouncing antisemitism in America, said that “if I don’t win this election,” then “the Jewish people would have a lot to do with a loss.”

Mr. Trump repeated that assertion at a second event, this one focused on Israeli Americans, where he blamed Jews whom he described as “voting for the enemy,” for the hypothetical destruction of Israel that he insisted would happen if he lost in November.

Mr. Trump on Thursday offered an extended airing of grievances against Jewish Americans who have not voted for him. He repeated his denunciation of Jews who vote for Democrats before suggesting that the Democratic Party had a “hold, or curse,” on Jewish Americans and that he should be getting “100 percent” of Jewish votes because of his policies on Israel.

Jews, who make up just over 2 percent of America’s population, are considered to be one of the most consistently liberal demographics in the country, a trend that Mr. Trump has lamented repeatedly this year as he tries to chip away at their longstanding affiliation with Democrats.

[...]
“With all I have done for Israel, I received only 24 percent of the Jewish vote,” he said during his earlier speech on Thursday, at a campaign

 

La phrase hors contexte serait douteuse

[Cthulhu]

L'âge de Trump commence à se faire sentir

 

 

 

[Adrian]

 

 

 

 

 

Ils parlent des policiers/ patrouille aux frontières ou des gens en général pour son "real rough one hour"

 

Et les crypto scam :

 

 

[Marlenus]

Il se prend pour un nouveau père fondateur, c'est tout.

Et il a pris Dieudonné comme conseiller financier.

[Lexington]

Il y a 1 heure, Adrian a dit :

 

 

 

 

 

Ils parlent des policiers/ patrouille aux frontières ou des gens en général pour son "real rough one hour"

 

Et les crypto scam :

 

 

 

La limite avec Giuliani devient de plus en plus ténue.

[Marlenus]

En tout cas c'est là où on voit la force de Trump.

 

C'est un gars qui fait sa pub sur son mugshot.

Dont une partie des plus fervents partisans sont en prison.

Et qui promet une période où les flics pourront buter qui ils veulent sans risques.

Et il est acclamé par ses partisans pour ça.

 

Macron dirait ça, on serait à se poser des questions sur sa santé mentale et on pourrait avoir peur.

Mais Trump, on va se resservir des moules.

 

 

 

 

Suis sincèrement épaté par son charisme.

 

[Marlenus]

Et ce qui est fort aussi c'est sa proportion à proposer la lune de façon convaincante.

 

Pour lutter contre la sécheresse en Californie?

Détournons l'eau du Canada. Les Canadiens la gâche.

C'est simple, non.

 

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. «Des millions de gallons d'eau coulent du nord, avec les sommets enneigés et le Canada, et tout coule vers le bas, a déclaré le candidat républicain à la prochaine présidentielle, visiblement bien renseigné. Et ils ont, en gros, un très grand robinet et il faut une journée pour l'ouvrir, c'est immense.» Jusque là, c'est plutôt limpide. «Vous l'ouvrez et toute cette eau se déverse inutilement dans le Pacifique, a-t-il poursuivi. Si vous le refermez, toute cette eau viendrait ici, directement à Los Angeles.»

 

https://korii.slate.fr/tech/donald-trump-super-idee-contre-secheresse-californie-robinet-geant-eau-canada-rocheuses-los-angeles-solution-penurie

 

[cedric.org]

42 minutes ago, Marlenus said:

Et ce qui est fort aussi c'est sa proportion à proposer la lune de façon convaincante.

 

Pour lutter contre la sécheresse en Californie?

Détournons l'eau du Canada. Les Canadiens la gâche.

C'est simple, non.

 

 

https://korii.slate.fr/tech/donald-trump-super-idee-contre-secheresse-californie-robinet-geant-eau-canada-rocheuses-los-angeles-solution-penurie

 

Si ça se trouve c'est une idée géniale ! On ne sait jamais avec lui. J'ai une heuristique simple : il raconte nimporte quoi, jusqu'à preuve du contraire, mais on peut être surpris par moment.

(je fais pareil en face : ils mentent, jusqu'à preuve du contraire. Jusque là ça marche plutôt pas mal.)

[Marlenus]

2 minutes ago, cedric.org said:

(je fais pareil en face : ils mentent, jusqu'à preuve du contraire. Jusque là ça marche plutôt pas mal.)

Je ne sais pas.

Quand ils nous promettent des hausses d'impôts ou plus d'état dans nos vies j'ai tendance à les croire...

 

Limite, si ils mentaient réellement tout le temps, ce serait presque plus vivable.

 

[Sloonz]

5 hours ago, Marlenus said:

Quand ils nous promettent des hausses d'impôts

Tu as oublié "pour les plus riches".

Ils mentent.