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Nick de Cusa

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On l'a déjà dit, mais c'est surtout son score parmi les jeunes qui est intéressant pour l'avenir.

D'ailleurs, il n'en a en rien à ficher, mais je pense qu'au lieu de se présenter comme candidat du LP, il ferait mieux d'endosser un jeune et de faire sa campagne avec lui (comme candidat VP, pourquoi pas).

Sauf si Bloomberg se présente en 3e candidat, auquel cas RP a tout intérêt à être le 4e et à espérer quelque cataclysme.

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Roniberal

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Ron Paul a un résultat très honorable dans le Montana, où il remporte même pas mal de districts avec un score écrasant (jusqu'à 87%). Par contre, partout ailleurs, il se fait sévèrement doser.

Ses résultats en Alaska et au Dakota du Nord ne sont pas mauvais non plus.

Enfin, on remet les pieds sur terre hélas…

Faut croire que les média de l'établissement ont bien torpillé la campagne de R.P en lui collant une réputation de sudiste xénophobe et conservateur

Ses dures positions sur l'immigration n'ont hélas pas arrangé les choses…

D'ailleurs, il n'en a en rien à ficher, mais je pense qu'au lieu de se présenter comme candidat du LP, il ferait mieux d'endosser un jeune et de faire sa campagne avec lui (comme candidat VP, pourquoi pas).

Ca va être difficile de trouver un autre candidat aussi charismatique et sincère que lui…

Sauf si Bloomberg se présente en 3e candidat, auquel cas RP a tout intérêt à être le 4e et à espérer quelque cataclysme.

Je ne pense pas que Bloomberg se présentera.

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h16

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On l'a déjà dit, mais c'est surtout son score parmi les jeunes qui est intéressant pour l'avenir.

D'ailleurs, il n'en a en rien à ficher, mais je pense qu'au lieu de se présenter comme candidat du LP, il ferait mieux d'endosser un jeune et de faire sa campagne avec lui (comme candidat VP, pourquoi pas).

Sauf si Bloomberg se présente en 3e candidat, auquel cas RP a tout intérêt à être le 4e et à espérer quelque cataclysme.

Je think que tu making beaucoup d'anglicismes stranges.

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Roniberal

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Romney suspend sa campagne

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na…0,6466327.story

McCain seals GOP nomination as Romney suspends campaign

John McCain effectively sealed the Republican presidential nomination today as chief rival Mitt Romney suspended his faltering presidential campaign. "I must now stand aside, for our party and our country," Romney prepared to tell conservatives.

"If I fight on in my campaign, all the way to the convention, I would forestall the launch of a national campaign and make it more likely that Senator Clinton or Obama would win. And in this time of war, I simply cannot let my campaign, be a part of aiding a surrender to terror," Romney will say at the Conservative Political Action Conference in Washington.

"This is not an easy decision for me. I hate to lose. My family, my friends and our supporters… many of you right here in this room… have given a great deal to get me where I have a shot at becoming President. If this were only about me, I would go on. But I entered this race because I love America, and because I love America."

McCain prevailed in most of the Super Tuesday states, moving closer to the numbers needed to officially win the nomination.

Overall, McCain led with 707 delegates, to 294 for Romney and 195 for Huckabee. It takes 1,191 to win the nomination at this summer's convention in St. Paul, Minn.

"I disagree with Senator McCain on a number of issues, as you know. But I agree with him on doing whatever it takes to be successful in Iraq, on finding and executing Osama bin Laden, and on eliminating al-Qaida and terror," Romney said.

Romney's departure from the race came almost a year after his formal entrance, when the Michigan native declared his candidacy on Feb. 12, 2007, at the Henry Ford Museum of Innovation in Dearborn, Mich.

Over the ensuing 12 months, Romney sought the support of conservatives with a family values campaign, emphasizing his opposition to abortion and gay marriage, as well as his support for tax cuts and health insurance that would benefit middle-class families.

"We need to teach our children that before they have babies, they get married," he told voters at his campaign events.

But he was dogged by charges of flip-flopping, a criticism that undermined the candidacy of another Massachusetts hopeful -- John Kerry in 2004. In seeking to unseat Sen. Edward M. Kennedy in 1994, Romney said he would be a better advocate for gay rights than his rival and he favored abortion rights.

Throughout his campaign, Romney was questioned by voters and the media about his Mormon faith. Hoping assuage voters skeptical of electing a Mormon president, Romney gave speech on Dec. 6 in College Station, Texas, that explicitly recalled remarks John F. Kennedy made in 1960 in an effort to quell anti-Catholic bias. He vowed to serve the interests of the nation, not the church, if elected president.

In early voting Iowa, Romney sought votes by casting himself as the guardian of the Reagan-era conservative triad -- a three-legged stool, as the candidate put it -- of a strong national defense, strong economy and strong families.

Fueled by what would grow to more than $35 million of personal donations, his campaign hired top-notch staff in the early voting states, and Romney scored an early win when his organization topped the field at the Iowa Straw Poll in August.

By that time, the national front-runners, McCain and former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, had virtually ceded the lead-voting state to Romney.

Instead, McCain focused on New Hampshire, second on the calendar, while Giuliani employed an untested strategy of waiting out the early primary contests and instead staking his candidacy on a strong showing in the Jan. 29 Florida primary.

Romney's goal was to score back-to-back wins in Iowa and New Hampshire, clearing the field and creating momentum to roll through Florida -- where he enjoyed the support of top aides to former Gov. Jeb Bush -- and seal the nomination in the Super Tuesday contests.

Instead, Romney was beaten Jan. 3 in Iowa by former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, a former Southern Baptist minister who received an unexpected outpouring of support in the caucuses from voters identifying themselves as evangelicals.

Five days later, Romney suffered a second consecutive defeat in New Hampshire, when McCain won the primary in part with the support of independents attracted to his self-styled maverick campaign.

Romney, who headed the 2002 Winter Olympic Games in Salt Lake City, tried to cast each defeat in competitive terms, saying his second-place finishes amount to "silver medals." He also highlighted the "gold" he won in between and in the little-watched Wyoming caucuses.

Nonetheless, Romney took a cue from Huckabee's win, as well as Democrat Barack Obama's Iowa upset of rival Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a sign voters wanted change in Washington.

On the stump, he retooled his speech to harken back to the theme he broached in Dearborn, that America's future, and that of its government, were dependent on innovation. His campaign also hung new banners reading, "Washington is Broken," as well as a to-do list Romney would complete as president.

Romney and McCain went head-to-head in the Jan. 13 Michigan primary, and Romney won, in part by highlighting his background as a business consultant and venture capitalist. When McCain acknowledged what seemed to be obvious, that not all of Detroit's lost auto industry jobs would be recovered, Romney pounced.

He accused the senator of pessimism, outlining a $20 billion industry recovery package and telling audiences in economically ailing Michigan, "I will fight for every single job."

Romney also tweaked his stump speech to criticize McCain for stating that he was more familiar with foreign affairs and military matters than economic issues.

Highlighting his 25-year business career, he told audiences, "Senator McCain says the economy is not his strong suit; well, it is my strong suit."

As the calendar progressed, however, McCain picked up a big-ticket win in the Jan. 19 South Carolina primary. Romney instead focused on his victory in the Nevada caucuses the same day.

Ten days later, the two squared off again in the Florida primary, where McCain scored a major upset after winning endorsements from the state's two top elected Republicans -- Gov. Charlie Crist, a popular figure who had previously said he planned to remain neutral in the race, and Sen. Mel Martinez.

McCain also retaliated for the negative ads that Romney aired against Huckabee in Iowa and him in New Hampshire. In a state with a large population of active-duty military and veterans, the former naval aviator accused Romney of favoring a timetable for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq.

Romney denied the charge, and the April 2007 interview McCain cited as justification for his criticism made no such clear declaration, but the senator ended up beating Romney in the primary. Most telling, he outpolled Romney among voters saying the economy was their most important issue.

The following day, Giuliani dropped out of the race and endorsed McCain. A day later, popular California Gov. Arnold Schwarzeneger announced his endorsement of McCain, reflecting a coalescing of Republican support behind the senator as he approached a Super Tuesday showdown with Romney.

Romney's final pitch was to label McCain a liberal like Clinton and Obama, a charge tantamount to heresy in the GOP. He was backed by conservative media voices like Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter, as well as former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum.

"We want the leader of our party to be somebody who stands up for Republican principles, who lives in the house that Reagan built, who makes sure our future stays bright," Romney said Monday.

Guy Millière John McCain exulte donc…

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Ash

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Chose marrante :

La France n'est pas un modèle

Dans son discours d'abandon, le conservateur s'en est par ailleurs pris à la France, où il a pourtant séjourné deux ans en tant que missionnaire mormon dans les années 60. «Nous faisons face à une nouvelle génération de défis qui menacent notre prospérité, notre sécurité et notre avenir. Si l'Amérique ne change pas, nous pouvons devenir comme la France du 21ème siècle. Encore une grande nation mais pas le leader du monde».

Une fuite dans le quotidien Boston Globe, fin 2007 avait vu la publication d'un document stratégique du camp Romney où la critique de l'Hexagone était conseillée de façon récurrente comme un bon outil de campagne. Des slogans étaient développés, associant Hillary Clinton à la France. «C'est là qu'Hillary et les démocrates veulent nous emmener. Hillary = France», suggérait ce document à usage des militants. Des autocollants estampillés «First, Not France» («En tête, pas comme la France») avaient même été conçus à mettre sur les voitures mais n'ont pas été utilisés.

http://www.lefigaro.fr/elections-americain…e-la-course.php

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G7H+

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Lu dans un mail aux sympathisants reçu aujourd'hui :

[…]

Of course, I am committed to fighting for our ideas within the Republican party, so there will be no third party run. I do not denigrate third parties -- just the opposite, and I have long worked to remove the ballot-access restrictions on them. But I am a Republican, and I will remain a Republican.

[…]

Ron Paul

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John Loque

John Loque

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RP à Liberty University, pas mal le public!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PruslSx9p18

Waow, 40 minutes devant 8500 étudiants !

http://www.liberty.edu/libertyjournal/inde…58&ArtID=87

US Congressman Ron Paul speaks to crowd at Liberty University

posted on Friday, February 8, 2008 by Mitzi Bible | in General News

U.S. Congressman Ron Paul, Republican candidate for president, had the chance to speak before his largest crowd on the campaign trail at Liberty University Friday.

With about 8,500 students, faculty and staff in attendance, he used the convocation service to point out key issues of his platform: a Sanctity of Life Resolution for stopping abortion, paying down the national debt, sound money, repealing the income tax, withdrawal of troops from Iraq, free markets and limited government.

Several students waved signs and banners and cheered during his talk. Paul’s speech was clearly tailored for a younger audience.

“The campaign this past year has been energized by the young people who have a great deal of concern for the future of the country,” he said at the start of his speech. Paul is the fourth candidate in this election cycle to speak at Liberty. (All candidates have received an invitation to speak).

“I heard there were a bunch of kids who were very interested in what I’ve been talking about and it turns out that there have been a lot and the energy is here, so I think I made a wise choice,” Paul said.

LU chancellor and president Jerry Falwell Jr. said he was pleased at how students reacted, even those who did not align themselves with Paul’s beliefs.

“Liberty’s a university, we’re here for educational purposes; it’s more important here than anywhere else to hear all sides so we’ve invited every candidate and we hope more will come,” he said.

After convocation, students swarmed around a barrier asking Paul to sign autographs and pose for pictures.

Sam Bernhardt, a junior, said he was there to support Paul “because I like his stance of going back to a limited government, I like his policy on sound money and I like his idea of going back to the Constitution.”

Corey Umberger, a freshman, was also there to show his support.

“Since I’ve seen him, he’s just a great speaker … his beliefs on the war in Iraq, I really like them.”

Paul, whose campaign has relied heavily on the Internet and volunteers, said he feels the younger generation is backing him because “they are getting a bum rap. They’re inheriting a situation that is wearing out and I am offering a solution to what they see is coming.”

And in the wake of Mitt Romney’s suspension of his campaign on Thursday, Paul said he intends to stay on, “as long as there’s enthusiasm and the number of volunteers grows and the money comes in.”

He said he was encouraged by the turnout of supporters at Liberty.

“I’m very thankful that I’ve been invited to come here and I hope I’ve planted a seed or two.”

Paul, a member of the House of Representatives for the 14th District of Texas, ran as a Libertarian for president in 1988.

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Bastiat

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Entre un Ron Paul, un McCain et une Hillary, la droite religieuse a de fortes chances de préférer Ron Paul.

je ne sais pas si mon interprétation est la bonne, mais j'ai fait un petit tableau de corrélation entre les républicains.

Si la causalité va dans le sens de ton commentaire, les voix de Romney (surtout) et de Huckabee irraient plus volontier vers Paul que McCain

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Apollon

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Lu dans un mail aux sympathisants reçu aujourd'hui :

Voilà qui met un terme aux spéculations consternantes sur une candidature indépendante de Ron Paul. En participant aux primaires républicaines, il s'engageait évidement à ne pas courir en indépendant et il devra appeller à voter pour McCain.

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Bastiat

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On verra.

De toute façon, ce débat n'a plus trop d'importance malheureusement…

Soit il continu jusqu'a plus pognon pour défendre ses idées sois il donne a une association je pense ?

Quel est l'usage la bas pour liquider der les comptes de campagne ?

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Nick de Cusa

Nick de Cusa

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Soit il continu jusqu'a plus pognon pour défendre ses idées sois il donne a une association je pense ?

Quel est l'usage la bas pour liquider der les comptes de campagne ?

Pourrait-il les céder à un candidat Libertarien si lui ne veut pas y aller? Je ne pense pas que ses donateurs lui en voudraient.

On verra.

De toute façon, ce débat n'a plus trop d'importance malheureusement…

Pourquoi?

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kobsh_gigaone

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je ne sais pas si mon interprétation est la bonne, mais j'ai fait un petit tableau de corrélation entre les républicains.

Si la causalité va dans le sens de ton commentaire, les voix de Romney (surtout) et de Huckabee irraient plus volontier vers Paul que McCain

Impossible ! La mainstream républicain est pro-war. Voter Paul c'est pire que de voter hilary pour beaucoup de conservateurs!

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Roniberal

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Pourquoi?

Ron Paul a reconnu lui-même qu'il n'avait plus la moindre chance de l'emporter (même s'il continue la campagne):

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14525.html

Ron Paul faces reality, refocuses his efforts

He hasn’t talked about it much publicly, but the truth is, Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) realized a while ago that he wouldn’t win a majority of delegates before the Republican National Convention, but thought he might have greater success if there were a brokered convention, at which anything can happen.

In a message to his fans last night, Paul effectively conceded that it’s time to face facts and refocus his efforts. His message explained:

“With Romney gone, the chances of a brokered convention are nearly zero. But that does not affect my determination to fight on, in every caucus and primary remaining, and at the convention for our ideas, with just as many delegates as I can get. But with so many primaries and caucuses now over, we do not now need so big a national campaign staff, and so I am making it leaner and tighter.”

That doesn’t sound like a candidate poised to officially withdraw from the presidential race, though it does sound like a candidate who can see the writing on the wall.

And what about a possible third-party campaign? I’ve long thought that Paul is uniquely well-suited for an independent effort — unlike, say, Unity08 or the Reform Party, his message is truly “distinct” compared to the two major parties — but apparently Paul also realizes that there’s no real point in such a campaign.

Mr. Paul clearly stated that he will not run as a third-party candidate. Right now, his priorities are serving the residents in his Texas congressional district and winning re-election: “If I were to lose the primary for my congressional seat, all our opponents would react with glee, and pretend it was a rejection of our ideas.”

From what we can make of the letter, Mr. Paul is staying in the race on a peripheral level, just so he can keep participating in policy discussions (and maybe use up all that money he’s amassed?).

“In the presidential race and the congressional race, I need your support, as always,” Mr. Paul wrote. “And I have plans to continue fighting for our ideas in politics and education that I will share with you when I can, for I will need you at my side. In the meantime, onward and upward! The neocons, the warmongers, the socialists, the advocates of inflation will be hearing much from you and me.”

In this sense, Paul is in a similar position to Dennis Kucinich. He’s been running a presidential campaign with no real expectation of success, but with the hope of giving his ideas a national platform. But pushing the Quixotic effort too far imperils his only day job — serving as a member of the House of Representatives — including a primary challenge back home. (Sometimes, voters actually want a representative who cares as much about them as some broader national vision.)

I suspect Paul, if he gave up his House seat and ran as an independent, could make the ballot almost everywhere, and could probably garner up to 4% of the national popular vote. As third-party candidates go, that’s not too bad.

The problem, of course, is the day after, when Paul found himself unemployed. Given his rabid following, he could probably create some kind of advocacy group and make a fair amount of money, but he’d be completely without power, and his influence in Washington (which is already modest) would disappear.

Better to wrap up the presidential campaign quietly, give some attention to the House race, and hope to keep the political career going.

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Roniberal

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J'aurais du parier avec toi, pour compenser le pari que je vais perdre avec Apollon…

1) Rien ne dit que tu vas le perdre, la dynamique étant aujourd'hui du côté d'Obama

2) J'aurais refusé de parier, je n'ai jamais affirmé que j'étais sûr que Ron Paul allait se présenter sous la bannière d'autres partis.

Au final aura-t-on un ticket MCCain/ Huckabee pour s'attirer la voix des sudistes qui aiment pas McCain ?

Ca serait un beau coup pour McCain, oui.

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