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Venezuela : l'autre grande réussite du socialisme


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« Hugo Chavez n'a pas seulement fait progresser la condition humaine, il a aussi fait progresser la démocratie »

J-L. Mélenchon, il y a une dizaine d'années

 

 

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Il y a 2 heures, Mathieu_D a dit :

J'espère surtout que la clique à Maduro ne va pas continuer la fuite en avant avec une guerre au Guyana.

Quand on voit le sale caractère que Maduro a, ça ne serait pas étonnant.

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6 minutes ago, Freezbee said:

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J'allais dire, très bien qu'il se ridiculise et perde encore du crédit.

 

Dommage que le tweet date de 2019.

 

J'attends de voir comment il va se ridiculiser en 2024.

 

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il y a 1 minute, Marlenus a dit :

J'attends de voir comment il va se ridiculiser en 2024

 

Sur la question vénézuélienne, ils sont étrangement silencieux. Ils sont déjà passés à autre chose 😄

 

S'ils se ridiculisent cette année, j'ai peur que ça soit dans le cadre d'un gouvernement NFP mais cette perspective ne m'amuse guère...

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il y a 28 minutes, Marlenus a dit :

J'allais dire, très bien qu'il se ridiculise et perde encore du crédit.

 

Dommage que le tweet date de 2019.

 

J'attends de voir comment il va se ridiculiser en 2024.

 

 

Malheureusement, j'ai l'impression que les français oublient trop rapidement les prises de position (hors gouvernement) sur la politique internationale. Les exodes massifs de vénézuéliens il y a quelques années et les crises migratoires associées auraient déjà dû ruiner toute sa crédibilité sur ce sujet.

En passant, c'est toujours amusant de rappeler à certains que Poutine soutient officiellement Maduro... :icon_tourne:

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Parmi les partis politiques de gauche formant le Nouveau Front populaire, certains ont commenté l'élection foireuse de Maduro, ou bien c'est silence radio ?

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Il y a 1 heure, Bisounours a dit :

Parmi les partis politiques de gauche formant le Nouveau Front populaire, certains ont commenté l'élection foireuse de Maduro, ou bien c'est silence radio ?

 

Faure a RT cela + un autre tweet du president Chilien, Boric

 

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il y a 1 minute, Bisounours a dit :

Ah merci, et ça dit quoi (flemme de traduire avec deepL) ? Il remet en question la validité de l'élection ?

Tu as la version FR😘

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il y a 1 minute, Bisounours a dit :

Ah merci, et ça dit quoi (flemme de traduire avec deepL) ? Il remet en question la validité de l'élection ?

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il y a 4 minutes, RaHaN a dit :

Tu as la version FR😘

Ah oui, milescuses :)

Bon, l'internationale est préoccupée, et condamne...

J'aimerais bien entendre Merluchon.

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12 minutes ago, Bisounours said:

Ah merci, et ça dit quoi (flemme de traduire avec deepL) ? Il remet en question la validité de l'élection ?

En gros ils demandent un recomptage indépendant et l'arrêt des violences policières contre les manifestants.

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il y a 32 minutes, Freezbee a dit :

Vous pensez qu'Elon a ses chances ?

 

C'est ouf. Maintenant j'alterne entre être désolé pour les Vénézuéliens qui risquent leur vie, et sortir le pop-corn.

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https://www.latintimes.com/venezuelas-maduro-urges-citizens-denounce-each-other-through-government-app-557095

 

"Venezuela's Maduro urges citizens to denounce each other through a government app"

 

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"We are going to open a window in the App that we use for the 1x10 of Good Governance. A special page will be opened so that the entire population can confidentially provide the details of all the criminals who have attacked the people so we can go after them."

Hours after Maduro made the announcement, users began posting tutorials on how to report the app on app stores like Google Play and, as of now, several others report that the app has, in fact, been suspended by that provider.

 

 

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Curieuse concordance (cependant, le raid remonte à 2020)...

 

US arrests a former Green Beret over the failed 2020 raid into Venezuela to remove Maduro

 

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CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) — A former U.S. Green Beret who in 2020 organized a failed cross-border raid of Venezuelan army deserters to remove President Nicolás Maduro has been arrested in New York on federal arms smuggling charges.

 

A federal indictment unsealed this week in Tampa, Florida, accuses Jordan Goudreau and a Venezuelan partner, Yacsy Alvarez, of violating U.S. arms control laws when they allegedly assembled and sent to Colombia AR-styled weapons, ammunition, silencers, night vision goggles and other defense equipment requiring a U.S. export license.

 

Goudreau, 48, also was charged with conspiracy, smuggling goods from the United States and unlawful possession of a machine gun, among 14 counts. Goudreau appeared in federal court following his Tuesday arrest in Manhattan but it was not clear a day later whether he would be released from custody pending trial. He was being held at a federal detention center in Brooklyn.

 

Goudreau, a three-time Bronze Star recipient for bravery in Iraq and Afghanistan, claimed responsibility in 2020 for the amphibious raid by a ragtag group of soldiers that had trained in clandestine camps in Venezuela’s neighbor Colombia. He said he and others were acting to protect Venezuela’s democracy after Maduro’s 2018 reelection was boycotted by the opposition and condemned as undemocratic by the U.S. and dozens of other countries.

 

Two days before the incursion, The Associated Press published an investigation detailing how Goudreau had been trying for months to raise funds for the harebrained idea from the Trump administration, Venezuela’s opposition and wealthy Americans looking to invest in Venezuela’s oil industry should Maduro be removed.

 

While then-opposition leader Juan Guaidó was initially enthused by the coup idea, signing an agreement with Goudreau to explore such an option, little financial support arrived and the rural homes along Colombia’s Caribbean coast that housed the would-be liberators suffered from a lack of food, weapons and other supplies.

 

Despite the setbacks, the coup plotters went forward in a comical if tragic way in what was widely ridiculed as the “Bay of Piglets,” in reference to the 1961 Cuban fiasco. The group was easily mopped up by Venezuela’s security forces, which had already infiltrated the group. Two of Goudreau’s former Green Beret colleagues spent years in Venezuela’s prisons until a prisoner swap last year with other jailed Americans for a Maduro ally held in the U.S. on money laundering charges.

 

The arrest comes as Maduro is once again facing pressure over his increasingly authoritarian moves. Election authorities declared him the winner of Sunday’s presidential vote but a growing chorus of nations refuse to recognize the results, demanding Venezuela release individual precinct tallies. The opposition has presented records from 80% of the polling booths showing that its candidate, Edmundo González, defeated Maduro by a two-to-one margin.

 

Prosecutors in their 22-page indictment of Goudreau documented the ill-fated plot, citing text messages between the defendants about their effort to buy military-related equipment and export it to Colombia, and tracing a web of money transfers, chartered flights and large-scale purchases.

 

One November 2019 message from Goudreau to an equipment distributor said: “Here is the list bro.” It included AR-15 rifles, night-vision devices and ballistic helmets, prosecutors said.

 

“We def need our guns,” Goudreau wrote in one text message, according to the indictment. Prosecutors said he also identified a storage unit in Phoenix where an unnamed associate — who the AP has learned was another former Green Beret — would pick up the ammo.

 

In another message, prosecutors said, Alvarez asked Goudreau if she would be “taking things” with her on an upcoming flight from the U.S. to Colombia.

 

The equipment was shipped to Miami. Separately, Goudreau purchased several components to assemble about 60 AR-type firearms. Prosecutors said he also spent $90,000 on a used yacht — named Silverpoint, according to AP reporting — that left U.S. waters in February 2020 with Goudreau, an associate and several cans of ammunition, body armor plates and magazines for AR-15 rifles.

 

A month later, Colombian police found at a checkpoint near the Caribbean city of Santa Marta the stockpiled gear in the back of a car hired by Alvarez. From there, the plot — or at least Goudreau’s involvement in it — quickly unraveled.

 

Alvarez was an associate of a Venezuelan businessman who was so close to the government of the late Hugo Chávez that he spent almost four years in a U.S. prison for trying to cover up clandestine cash payments to its allies.

 

Franklin Durán was also the owner of the Venezuela-registered Cessna Citation II that was sometimes used to transport Alvarez and Goudreau, an AP investigation found. Durán over two decades has had numerous business ties with the socialist government of Venezuela, making him an odd choice to help a band of would-be-mercenaries overthrow Maduro. He was arrested in 2020 by Maduro for his involvement in the plot.

 

The U.S. indictment makes no mention of Durán but does say that in furtherance of the conspiracy, Goudreau, Alvarez and unnamed others traveled at least three times on a private airplane between Miami’s Opa-Locka airport and the Colombian city of Barranquilla, where Alvarez and Goudreau registered a Colombian affiliate of his Melbourne, Florida-based company Silvercorp.

 

Earlier this year, Goudreau’s main partner in the would-be coup, Cliver Alcalá, a retired three-star Venezuelan army general, was sentenced in Manhattan federal court to more than two decades for providing weapons to drug-funded rebels in an unrelated case.

 

Goudreau attended the court proceedings and wrote a letter praising Alcalá as a freedom-loving patriot who deserved to have his sentence reduced. But he refused then and on other occasions to speak to AP about his role in the attempted coup. His attorney, Gustavo J. Garcia-Montes, said his client is innocent but declined further comment.

 

The U.S. Justice Department declined to comment. An attorney for Alvarez, Christopher A. Kerr, told AP that Alvarez is “seeking asylum in the United States and has been living here peacefully with other family members, several of whom are U.S. citizens.”

 

“She will plead not guilty to these charges this afternoon, and as of right now, under our system, they are nothing more than allegations.”

 

If convicted, Goudreau and Alvarez face between 5 and 20 years in prison for each of the violations in the indictment.

 

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Le problème c'est que Maduro s'est assuré le soutien de l'armée.

Tant qu'il l'a je ne vois pas comment il peut être renversé...

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